Max’s Mock Off-Season 1.0

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Pretty much.
     
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    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    Good for him then. Crowder has been nothing but a true pro with the Jets despite dealing with horrendous QB play and Adam f'ing Gase.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I'll be shocked if Crowder is back after the Jets cut his salary for this season. I'd love to have both he and Cole back.
     
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    Great job. My only big disagreement is I think I'd bring Fatukasi back unless he just doesn't fit this scheme. He hasn't had a good year, but I think that's the scheme, not Fatukasi. We had a much better run defense last year with less talent. This scheme is too aggressive and runs itself out of position. I'd also re-sign Cole.
     
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    I was on the fence with Berrios coming into today but he played really, really well. I’d love for JD to bring him back on a reasonable deal.

    I think Crowder is gone but I’d be ok with bringing Cole back as well for depth.
     
  6. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    Why? Berrios is arguably better than Crowder and he’s also younger and cheaper and Cole has been a major disappointment.
     
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    Berrios isn't better than Crowder imo. Crowder has made a lot of big catches for this team. I'd extend/re-sign Berrios, Crowder and Cole if I could. I don't agree that Cole has been a major disappointment. He has pretty much been a career backup. I know he wound up starting initially, but that's more on Mims and Moore than it is Cole imo. Cole has helped keep the team loose and is a popular player. He can contribute, and as we have learned this season, you can't have too many quality WRs.
     
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    It really comes down to money. I wouldn't overpay for Crowder. I'd offer him what a decent but not great slot receiver is worth and not a penny more. if he gets a better offer, so be it.
     
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    I agree that Crowder is gone. I like Berrios and think he should be back. IMO he has proven his worth.

    With all our needs on D, I'll be really surprised if JD drafts a WR early, if at all. Mims has played his way off the roster imo, but the Jets may give him another chance next year simply because they still need to address the D, TE and OL. They may have to roll with Davis, Moore, Cole, Berrios, J. Smith and Mims again unless JD signs a vet in FA.
     
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    I’m fine w Berrios, Crowder and Cole back as backups but not as starters.
     
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    I fully anticipate Berrios not being here next year, which will suck... But I also fully anticipate his departure to be grossly overblown.
     
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    I think WR is still at the top of the list for needs for this team. These last 2-3 weeks have shown us that our depth at WR isn’t as good as we thought it was going into the season.

    I’m hoping JD takes a big swing via trade/FA for a premier WR or drafts one in the 1st/2nd round this year.
     
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    Don’t understand all the talk about not resigning Crowder and Berrios…they’ve been solid receivers for us. I would absolutely want them back
     
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    I definitely think it is a need, but at the top of the list? No, not imo. In an ideal world, we'd draft a stud for Zach, but this isn't an ideal world. IMO with our D being so awful this year, DE, OLB, and S are all bigger needs, and that's if we sign a FA CB. On offense, RG, and TE are much bigger needs than WR. I think RB is a bigger need. Carter's great, but after him, we don't have a lot. Coleman can still contribute as part of a rotation, but is older, and Johnson was a big disappointment to me, both in terms of receiving and blocking. IMO OT and IOL depth are a bigger need than WR. I think Davis will bounce back next season, and Moore should be good to go out of the gate. Even with just Cole and Berrios to go with Davis and Moore, that would give us a solid 4 WRs. Surely we can't have all the injuries next season, and I pray that Covid will be in the rearview mirror by then. JD could sign a FA WR and add even more talent/depth.

    That said, I wouldn't be unhappy for JD to prove me wrong and draft a WR high (1st or 2nd round). I just don't think he'll do that. I think Saleh is going to be lobbying big time for a lot of D help. Most of the top 10 picks in the 1st round will be defensive players. Evan Neal and Jameson Williams of Alabama, Garrett Wilson of OSU, and Tyler Linderbaum of Iowa will be the only offensive players taken in the top 10, which should include our two 1st round picks, unless JD trades down. , Maybe Charles Cross of MS St.or Icky Ekwonu of NC State sneak into the top 10, but I doubt both. If we could add a stud DE and either LB or DB, that could totally change the way our D plays next season. Saleh was great this season agreeing to address the offense first, but I can't imagine his doing that for two straight seasons. He's gonna want a serious talent upgrade in the draft and some playmakers.

    If JD trades down from one of our 1st round spots, I could see him taking Chris Olave or Drake London, but I'd be shocked if he takes either Jameson Williams or Garrett Wilson in the top 10.
     
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    If Crowder's back, he's a starter in the slot if they're playing Moore on the outside. Berrios and Cole are definitely backups.
     
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    Berrios has more than proven himself worthy of being extended - as a productive #4/5 receiver, backup and maybe spot starter. Not to mention being a very good kick returner. Crowder I'm less concerned with unless it is a reasonable deal, which I suspect it won't be. Cole's just another guy.
     
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    I dont like drafting a TE that high after signing one. One of those picks or signings should be a WR.

    I can;t not take a pass rusher at 4
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    We'll need the second TE with the amount that Schultz gets injured.

    But he might be worth it because of his dependable play and his

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    I haven't spent any time looking at potential draftees so I can't comment on any of the players you listed Max, but I'll ad my two cents in terms of general composition of your outline.

    Maybe it's because I still haven't recovered from Macc taking TWO fucking Safeties in 2017, skipping over both Mahomes and Watson, but I just don't think a Safety is worth a high first round pick. Yes, we need a much better S, but that doesn't mean we have to burn a top 10 pick on one, Hell, a mediocre Safety would be a vast improvement.

    Assuming Douglas doesn't trade back - and I think he will - I believe he's going to take the best Edge he can with the first pick. Then if an elite WR is available with his 2nd first rounder he'll take him.

    But I think this year has shown JD that this team needs MUCH more talent than it has, and so I think he's going to trade back and acquire more quality picks so he can fill some of the still gaping holes, like RG, C, WR, TE, LB, and of course S. If he can come up with 5-6 picks in the first 50 that would give him a good shot at filling those holes.

    As for FA, until we see who declares we can't know who will be available. But again, in general terms, I hope he grabs a stud LB, a TE, another RB, and a solid backup QB. While it would be nice to add a stud WR, I think you wind up really overpaying for them, especially to get one to consider coming to a losing team like the Jets. I believe it makes more sense to use high draft picks on the key positions like QB, WR, Edge, LT, and C because no team ever lets good ones leave.
     
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    I’m curious what the Jets do if they are picking #4 with Hutchinson, Thibodeaux, and Neal off the board.
     
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