There’s not really any reason to believe he can’t do it. He’s done it in the past just fine, he’s adjusting to the speed of the NFL.
Geno ran an Air Raid in college. One look and throw the ball, over and over again. He never had to process the whole field, just one side. He gets to the NFL and that won't work and his accuracy goes away. Zach ran the Power Spread at BYU. A spread offense featuring a heavy dose of outside runs out of the shotgun. When the defense comes up to stop the endless outside runs then Zach beats them up the sideline. Most of the throws he makes in the system are vertical to one sideline or the other. He doesn't throw to crossing receivers because the offense rarely runs crossing patterns. Then he comes to the Jets who want to pass the ball 65% of the time. The offense features a lot of slants and crosses and asks him to pick somebody out of the crowd as opposed to the one reads he threw most of the time in college. He can't do that reliably because he's never done it before. Didn't do it in high school didn't do it in college and damn sure isn't going to learn how at the pro level, not without lots and lots of repetitions against live defenders. In his big year in 2020 BYU ran 35 times a game and passed 31 times a game. This year the Jets have passed 504 times and ran 277. Colossal misfit.
What Zach Wilson likely needs is to get sent down to the minors to play a bunch of games running the Jets offense against live competition. Unfortunately football has no minor league system.
they should make one. I agree that’s what he needs, and what a lot guys need why not make one? There’s plenty of cities that would welcome a ‘AAA’ style football team and with betting now, plenty of opportunity for gambling
my yips diagnosis is OBVIOULSY a guess.. people saying "he's in his head" et cet... is all the same thing... anxiety affecting performance PRESSING to do well and that pressing having the opposite affect. as for "easily" fixable? those words should be like alarm bells. they use them way too much. am making no predictions. but based on my observations for decades on my gut feel... am feeling like Zach being a below avg QB has a higher probability than him becoming a perennial above avg QB
I don’t really consider it the yips when a players never done it successfully at the professional level. Those easy throws are so incredibly easy in college in a clean pocket against a coverage that doesn’t change from the time the play clock starts. The throws he’s missing look like the result of him not having a clue as to where the defender is and what leverage he should throw the ball to so he’s guessing and guessing wrong. Underneath zones in the NFL are so difficult for young quarterbacks to throw against because the linebackers are so much faster with better instincts than the guys at Texas State.
White has started two games--Bengals and Bills. He was a star against the Bengals and struggled the other. What difference does it make that White has been in league for 3 years--if anything that is a good thing. White doesn't one-hop the receivers on flair passes and short throws. The ONLY game all year where the jets offense looked in sync was White against the Bengals. It is wrong of Saleh to keep sitting him. Did you watch the game against the Saints? Seriously, it was pathetic. Nothing against Zach, but he is not playing the creampuff college schedule anymore and it shows!
We tried running the dumbed down read offense early in the year with him with limited options out in the route and he was air mailing a lot of the throws. In his defense, the protection was bad as was the running game so it was quite difficult. With the other quarterbacks, LaFleur reverted to the Jimmy G style of offense to pick apart defenses underneath by knowing where the ball should go. The difference in the Eagles game versus the Saints game was simply Wilson playing better in one versus the other.
I'm aware most rookies struggle. I meant do we see many QBs unable to complete a pass less than 10 yards to open receivers become competent passers? Zach was suppose to be this great thrower and at this point in the season he's flashed with very few great passes
Who did he play his last game against and what level D does that team have against opposing teams QB's? I am going to say it was Mr White in the Met Life Stadium with the Top Ranked Defence, killed him dead.
I could have thrown that pass. We're talking a player who excels in off-schedule throws competing a 5-7 yard flat pass unobstructed. He bounced the ball to the guy. That's not a bad read and for a guy like him it isn't bad footwork, that was him shitting himself.
I dunno. The yips are a mental fritz that cause an involuntary mechanical twitch that fucks up a simple mechanical action, such as throwing in baseball or putting in golf. It normally doesn't appear in practise only under pressure in game situations. Those dirt balls and sails on quick touch throws into the flat or to wide open guys on short routes out of the backfield sure look like that to me. The speed of the game might have been the cause but may not be the reason it is still happening. Some people get over the yips, some don't. The crossing routes where he leads the receiver too much or throws behind receivers I'd agree is more of a timing thing. He's rifling those passes and its just the placement that's a bit out. That is a rookie thing that he can get better at. They don't concern me as much. It may be that there are 2 slightly different but related things going on.
Yeah that all makes sense. I guess what I’m trying to say is that the “yips” is caused as a function of not knowing where the ball is supposed to go. So when he decides where to throw, it looks almost as if he’s second guessing himself mid-throw which is causing the ball to die or go wildly where he didn’t want it to go.
and beleive me... i take no joy in this... he certainly looked like a fun prospect- and i was saying so since i first learned abpout him maybe September last year
Well there are two categories, 1. Reasons that are not Wilson’s fault, and 2. Reasons that are Wilson’s fault. 1A. The Jets skill group Availability. This one is really big. White/Flacco/Johnson Games Michael Carter: 88% Elijah Moore: 100% Corey Davis: 50% Tevin Coleman: 100% Since Wilson came back? Michael Carter: 0% Elijah Moore: 67% Corey Davis: 17% Tevin Coleman: 67% This came to a head vs the Saints when all 4 of them combined were unavailable, and the Jets had no run game and nobody was getting open. The Saints play a lot of Quarters and Man so if you don’t have guys good enough to beat man coverage, your QB is going to have a rough day of it. 1B. Returning from injury. -As a professional athlete, it’s the first time Wilson has had to re-take the field against NFL players after suffering a lower body injury. It was very clear he didn’t fully trust his knee fully in the Texans game. 1C. The fan perception. Wilson was much much better in the Eagles game, at one point even 3/3 on TD drives. I don’t really blame him for the saints game. He had nothing to work with. Crowder was the best player so the Saints just keyed in on him. They said “Denzel Mims, DJ Montgomery, Ty Johnson, and Keelan Cole gonna beat us? I don’t think so bro.” And they were absolutely right. 2A. Wilson’s Footwork. -There are no two ways about it, his footwork is “casual” to put it nicely. It just has to be worked on meticulously this off-season. He obviously works on it in practice yes, but with all of the pre/post snap reads he is making, his mind is clearly not on his feet when game time starts. He needs to spend the off-season making the lower body mechanics automatic, so they happen naturally when he is reading the field. 2B. Forcing it. Wilson has the pressure of all of the Jets struggles over the past decade on his shoulders. When the run game is working, and they string a few first downs together, he is much more comfortable. After a few 3 and outs however, he doesn’t yet have the poise to take every snap like it’s the first of the game. You can see frustration creeping in. It doesn’t help that he knows the defense has been giving away points like it’s a charity event.
Oh and by the way, Mike White was absolutely trash against Buffalo. He played well against the Bengals, who had zero tape on the guy. Then he had 1 drive against the Colts, where he had a TD but nearly threw an interception leading up to it. Then the Bills saw his flaws and capitalized on them, resulting in an a god awful Mike White performance.
