All the QB's except Lawrence were over-rated by a large amount. It's called QB fever and it happens periodically when a talent who is perceived as generational comes on the market. That prospect gets over-analyzed by all the teams in the market for a QB and then as they realize they have no shot at him they over-analyze all the other QB prospects and discard the problems and magnify the skills in the process. It happens other years as well but it particularly happens when you have a Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence type on the market.
I was a huge Wilson supporter, but it does get harder and harder to be patient when there is a lack of progression. It is too early to give up on Zach, but on the other hand it would be a mistake to consider no other alternatives. We will likely have two top five picks. All I can say, is that it would be a HUGE mistake to not at least consider taking a QB with one of them if the right guy fell to us, and right now I have no opinion on who that guy might be. Remember we also have two second rounders, so there are plenty of picks to try and fix the d. What we can’t afford is if a top notch QB is available to let that kid slip thru our fingers. Nothing wrong w two young guys competing. I remember when the jets took Namath they also took Harte, another Qb, in the second round of that draft.
I would NOT shy away from drafting a QB. As much as we still need OL help, and TE help, and defense help at literally every position, we ALSO can’t assume that Zach will magically fix these issues next year. He has been terrible, he misses throws that any QB makes consistently…and we know because we’ve seen White, Johnson, and Flacco make them and score TD’s in this same exact offense with the same receivers. we can hide in the sand and hope and wish for him to get better, or we can get help at the QB position. Because right now, he is looking way more Josh Rosen than Josh Allen.
There is no way a team throws their newly drafted FQB after 8 games, I am not sure your point. Has that ever happened in the league? After 2 yrs, I get it. But not after 8 games. I am not opposed to Wilson sitting, maybe that was right way to go, since he may have needed. But they decided to throw him to the wolves. He can make the throws I am sure, he is just over thinking and cratering under the scrutiny/pressure. No way a player gets drafted w/o the ability to show he can make all the throws!!!! ESP 2nd pick. Mental side makes and breaks an NFL QB. Hopefully he gets it, otherwise you will be right. That’s all I am saying. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
And yes, Zach needs to correct accuracy issues. There are. Chemistry issues with WR may be an issue, pressing, and just maybe lack of mechanics. He needs to work on it for sure. If not corrected he won’t make it in league. So I am sure he will give it best if he wants long career. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
There won't be any top notch QB's available in the top 5 - notwithstanding that at least one QB will likely be taken there. I think the Jets need to stop pretending that they can solve the QB problem at the top of the draft. They need to take the most talented players they can and as many as they can and work the QB problem differently. If they see a QB at a pick whose value = the pick's value they should strongly consider taking them. Taking one for need at the first opportunity is just flushing a lot of value down the toilet again. The repeated flushes are a big part of why we're as bad as we are.
We are not taking QB with any top picks this year!!! Just not happening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
He didn’t look the part yesterday whatsoever. The good news is accuracy usually improves. The bad news is it was REALLY bad yesterday. And what’s annoying is he was making the right reads. He had a chance to make a statement missing all of his top targets and the staff put him in position to do so… but he blew it. Yes the team around him sucked just as bad but if he completes even half of the throws he missed wildly on, we’re having a whole different discussion today. But that’s how it goes for the Jets. Talking about moving on is still dumb though.
He has to be better and to deny that his performance this season has been disappointing, even for a rookie, isn't right. The way he misses some passes is shocking and far too many of his passes are just off-target. However, this doesn't mean he's a bust yet. Some have said he looked more comfortable and was seeing the field well today, which might be true and that is progress, but his accuracy is off. This has to improve and hopefully he and his 9 QB coaches can get it corrected. I wonder if he's thinking too much or is too tense. He gets four more games of experience to work things out and hopefully build toward a better next season (being full aware of the Sam Darnold effect for his rookie season). With that being said, I hope they have a very legitimate backup QB option. Let's say 2022 comes and he's holding this team back with accuracy and turnover issues. Then some tough decisions would have to be made.
You mentioned that you are unsure of my point--OK it is this. Barring injury, I would play White at QB the last 5 games. We gonna lose them anyway, and yes I know that includes Jax. See if White shows anything more than Wilson. The ONLY game all year that I thought the jets offense looked crisp was White at QB against Bengals. Next year have an open competition over the summer at QB. I think part of Zach's problem was that he was handed the starter keys last summer without having proved squat at this level. Wilson really reminds me of Browning Nagle (1992)--a big power arm, no touch at all on the short passes, and misses the easy throws.
The Jets made this mess themselves. The prudent move would have been to sit the 22 year old kid QB, and have him learn from a Teddy, Tyrod, Gardner, hell, even Fitzy. All they had to do was follow the established model and things would have been fine. We -- and the rest of the sports world -- wouldn't be having this discussion. This is completely an unforced error. It sucks that we're here, but we're here. We can't discount that either that the MLF system can work well with other QBs or that Wilson has potential. It does not make sense to dump either at this point in the rebuild. The common sense move would be to make Wilson earn the starting job next year. The most logical competition would be White but, as we already know, the Jets have soured on him for some reason. Maybe it has to do with him being injury-prone, but then why would the Jets have him be the backup if he can't stay on the field? So it seems like they've got to go out and get someone. Whether it's Gardner or a draftee, it's got to be legit competition. About the latter, I do wonder what the Jets would do if there was a good QB value at one of the Jets picks... Say Carson Strong is available at the Carolina 2nd round pick? or say Desmond Riddler is available at the Jets 3rd round pick? Will be a critical off season, for sure.
I'm pretty sure the Jets soured on White because he threw the coaches under the bus after the Bills game. All he had to do was say the young Jets QB mantra "I have to play better than that" and he'd probably still be starting. Instead he made a comment to the media along the lines of "why didn't we make better adjustments when the Bills were making us look bad?" As a QB never, ever throw your coaches or teammates under the bus. It's poor leadership even if it is potentially true. The leader takes the hit when somebody needs to do that and if you don't get that you're not going to be the leader for long.
The Jets offense worked with White under center. The Bills game was an outlier because that pass defense is historically good at this point. They're right up there with the 2002 Bucs and the 2009 Jets given the difference in era's.
I was thinking the same thing. I’d feel worse if he wasn’t seeing the field and throwing INTs into coverage, while other guys were open. The lack of accuracy is just mind boggling. But I’ll say this … after playing QB his whole life, all the games, the hundreds of practices, the football camps, etc., I’m supposed to believe that he suddenly can’t throw the ball accurately 7 yards after he gets drafted?? I just can’t believe that. I don’t believe it. I have no idea what’s going on with him, but I’m sure he has the ability to hit a target 7 yards away. I’ll assume he’ll get that part fixed.
I think Zach's knee bothers him. Saw that on the play where he slid at the feet of the last defender on that earlier run, and also throughout the game. ( I was at the game) This hindrance effects the other aspects of his game. Hate to say it but I think I saw more positives out of Sam's rookie year. Ugh. That's said, I STILL think Zach has more intangibles and can have a bright future. Footballs careening off of his receivers can't be helping his growth either. He never gets the same group to throw to in consecutive weeks due to injuries, covid.... The biggest "bummer" has been how the organization has handled these rookie QB situations, even under different leadership. For paying customers attending games, it's a disaster how the Jets are now basically throwing away two seasons out of four starting a QB who is not ready. As much as we describe ourselves as "long suffering" I personally have never felt more like I'm supporting a true "bottom barrel" franchise. Not sure why i went to yesterdays game. It played out exactly as I expected. I've been through several disaster December home Saints games. Getting damn sick of it.
