yeah but this was a complete game by zach. he had that 1 high throw that got picked but outside of that he was sharp, decisive, accurate, and made good decisions. he had 3 TDs on the 1st 3 drives. most of the time if you can do that you have a pretty good lead. instead we were down by 3 at that point which is ridiculous.
While yesterday was Wilson’s best game since the Tennessee game IMO there are still a lot of struggles. He is still lacking confidence and showing jitters especially after the first read is not there. The nice thing about yesterday was on the 1st half he got into a rhythm and his play got better. I would like to see that confidence calmness and ease all game long. His pocket presence still has not got back to where it was at the start of the year. My only fear and biggest fear is the mental side. Is he able to mentally handle the pressure? His doubts and nervousness should decrease over time as his confidence with the offense and defensive recognition grow. But, playing QB is mostly mental and he will need to learn to calm his nerves to be a FQB.
Agree, but the object of passing is to complete the pass. That said, none of our receivers are All Pro (Moore may become one but hasn't yet), and Zach is a 7 game rookie so there's a lot of learning on both ends of the pass to be done.
not because they won…because he’s proven over decades that he’s great player and can do it same for Mahomes. Wilson isn’t getting the benefit of the doubt because he hasn’t done it yet
I watched the Jags@Rams game last night. Trevor looked horrible... they kept cutting to shots of a seething Urban on the sideline... it was kinda funny. Still... Trevor sucking doesn't make Zach any better. They're both rookies and still developing. As far as our receivers dropping balls... as much as I hate to say it... Zach has got to do better with his targeting & touch. Too many balls are getting to receivers that are a struggle for them to make the catch cleanly. I don't know why that is... in pre-season he was tossing beautifully shaped balls that were easy to snatch and get some yards after. You can tell he's still a bit too amped up... gotta let the game slow down... that will come with time. He did have quite a few beautiful passes yesterday... showing more than enough to be optimistic about his progress. He has a great arm... time to get his mental game going.
I don't quite get the comparison to Lawrence. We had no chance of drafting him. We should really be comparing Wilson to the guys we could have had: Jones has looked good, but is he close to his ceiling? I see a lot of Garoppolo hate (which I really don't get) so I don't know why anyone would be beating the drum for a guy that is very similar to him. Lance hasn't even really played. Certainly not enough to beat the drum for him. Fields has been as close to equal to Wilson as you can get. Nearly identical competition percentage. 2 points separate their passer ratings. Wilson has thrown more TD passes, but more interceptions. Fields has led a historically bad offense. I don't know how anyone can say Fields has objectively done better than Wilson. He hasn't. Those 3 guys are the ones I would be looking at and no one is going to convince me at this point that the we should have drafted Lance, Jones, Fields over Wilson.
I think it's when he's under duress, or puts too much pressure on himself to make a play (hero ball). But he's shown he can be accurate on college and in P.S. - the first half yesterday he showed what he can do when given protection. By the time he got the ball back to start the 4th qtr he was back in "hero" mode but he still didn't look horrible.
He has no touch. That's how it is possible. He throws a rock hard ball at top speed on most of his intermediate throws. You better have some real grabbers out there if you are going to do that. Vinny-like.
He looked good in the 1st half. Not very good. Our expectations at this point are so low that when he has a good half it looks much better than it actually was. In the second half he looked better than he usually does but not good.
Pretty sure Allen had a similar issue in Wyoming. Threw fastballs to his receivers when a change up would be sufficient.
Incremental progress, that is what I have been looking for and yesterday was a step in the right direction, he needs to be more consistent, and my hope is he will by the end of the year. The touch, the pressures, the setting of assignments prior to the snap will come with enough reps... at least they should. If he doesn't get any better than yesterday, then we have a QB who can win games, be inconsistent at times and throw ints. To me that sounds like an NFL QB ......... Another 400 yards given up by our vaulted D and 30 pts. The D has deteriorated to the point that they seem incapable of stopping anyone - besides TX . That lies with the DC and HC.
That's certainly putting a lot of conditions on what kind of mediocrity is acceptable. In any event, there is nothing "fine" about such a performance. And, once again, pointing out the problems of any other player does absolutely nothing to inprove the performance of a player you're trying to praise or defend.
Of course not, but it can improve the perception of people who are evaluating that performance...if those people have an unbiased mind.
I guess what's been heartening for me is that since he came back from injury, Wilson has clearly improved in two areas he needed to work on. He's been making a point to take the underneath stuff and he's been getting rid of the ball a lot more quickly. That tells me he's well aware of the weaknesses in his game and is actively taking steps to correct them. He's also been throwing the ball up for grabs a lot less often which has meant a lot less hideous turnovers. Remains to be seen if he can keep this upward trajectory but I'm pretty optimistic about it considering how aware he seems to be about his faults. This doesn't seem to be a Darnold situation where he's going to be making the exact same mistakes he always did in his 4th season.
You just can't get beyond your bias... your expectations are simply too high. Every other rookie quarterback (sans Mac Jones) is struggling... as are a few veterans. He had a decent game... give him some probs and hold off your criticism until he shits the bed vs. the Saints...
His ball placement really Isn't good enough. The majority of those throws were off. You want your FQB to be able to hit these throws that make your playmakers lives a little bit easier. These are not receiver friendly balls most of the time. It's concerning just how much these throws are off. This could've easily been a 3 INT game. That's not good enough. These receivers helped Wilson out a lot on most of these throws, instead of It being the other way around. Watching that cut up didn't make me feel any better about the "progress" of this QB. I agree, this was probably his best game as a PRO, that's concerning though to me.
Just because all the other QB's are struggling, doesn't make the play of Wilson okay though. When It's shit, It's just shit. Call It what It Is. You don't have to be "biased" to use your eyes and have a rational observation of... "This kid fucking sucks right now." We all want him to succeed. Again, I just don't see It right now. Again, SAM DARNOLD gave me far more hope at this juncture In both their rookie seasons. That can't be a good sign. Just like before the draft... I hope I'm wrong. There Is plenty of reason for any NYJ fan to be concerned right now though. It Is silly to suggest otherwise. This biased argument doesn't make sense either, the proof Is In the pudding as they say... It's not like things are being fabricated at this point In some weird conspiracy against, Zach Wilson. It's there, we all see It, It hasn't been good.
