We didn't get the ball in the 3rd qtr. By the 4th we were playing catch up. Zach ain't there yet. Our defense is a defense in name only... You can't let the opponent score on every drive and expect to win. You can't let the opponent have the ball for ten minutes more than you and expect to win. You can't let the opponent win the turnover battle and expect to win. The best thing to help Zach develop is to have a defense that will put the ball in his hands. We don't have that. I can't think of one quarterback that could win with this defense. Not one.
I agree, no ball 3rd quarter. 4th quarter was desperation time. Zach was pressing, he seems to regress when doing so. So 2nd half failure I have to give This miserable D credit for that. If it was closer game in forth then could have kept the script. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Most of the throws could have been better, but all were catchable. Except the bad interception and one in end zone. Those 2 were bad throws. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
At the end of the day... Wilson has yet to have a game that suggests he belongs In the NFL as a FQB. The flashes have been minimal, the bad has been apparent, the consistency Is lacking and the excuses are ahhh many. None of this shit matters. Not the comparisons, the potential, the flash In the pan highlights... It's not there yet. It needs to be there. Until It happens. Well, It's still not there. Making excuses, being optimistic, finding hope... All that Is great. More power to ya, If that's your thing. I'm rooting for a better outcome, expecting the worst though. Let's be honest. This doesn't look good right now for, Wilson. ...but hey, 5 more games to play, right? lol
Nobody is really making the right comparisons for Zach at this point. That's because most of the valid ones are to QB's who were one and done for their teams with a few guys who lasted another season or two at the outside. It's not just performance, it's also presentation and how the guy looks on the field. Eli Manning blew total chunks his first season after he got on the field. However he never looked like he didn't belong. He just threw way too many balls to the other team instead of his guys, mostly forced throws that no NFL QB should let go of. Until Zach Wilson looks like he belongs out there we're going to have real questions about whether he does.
Summarized beautifully. Going a full quarter practically without the offense seeing the field is absolute horse shit. Wilson is improving, still making many rookie mistakes but with a team with limited talent offensively and a putrid defense it makes it very hard for any one. Yet I refuse to accept cavalier comments like Wilson has not shown shit, blah, blah, blah and try to look for things that can positively improve the team in the future. In my opinion, the defense is the first order business. We are an embarrassment and no matter who is behind center has a small chance of success.
Right before that pick he makes a great throw to Moore and he drops it. That shit can't happen. They play Cory went out another great throw and dropped Those drops are drive killers. The Moore drop lead directly to the pick.
I saw improvement today. So that is all we can ask. There were a lot of catchable ball on the turf today, that could have been thrown better. This is tough crowd, not sure what the expectation is at this point. Seems to be extremely high bar. Thank God we didn’t draft Lawrence. Wilson has been better. We would be destroying that guy here. He is like throwing foe 125 yds a game. And some egregious int. Everybody was clamoring for him. Patience. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I disagree about Eli. He was pretty awful and looked to me and many others that he might be in over his head, but he really turned it around in year 2. However, I agree that this is the right comparison to make. I'm hoping Zach turns it around next year and think he can. (He better!)
The big difference is that Eli was calling the protection, checking to runs against light boxes and calling his own plays pretty much immediately. He was a brilliant football mind at the LOS with terrible accuracy and that bad accuracy traveled with him his entire career. He always knew where the ball needed to go, even as a rookie, he just never had the physical capacity to consistently get it there.
That is some revisionist history- Manning made his NFL regular season debut in Week 1 against the Philadelphia Eagles. He came into the game toward the end the fourth quarter in relief of Kurt Warner. He finished the 31–17 loss 3-of-9 for 66 yards.[73] Manning made his first career regular season start against the Atlanta Falcons at Giants Stadium on November 21, 2004. In the game, Manning threw his first career touchdown on a six-yard pass to Jeremy Shockey in the third quarter.[74] In his fourth start, against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium on December 12, 2004, he ended the day with a 0.0 passer rating and was benched in the second half in favor of Warner, but remained the Giants starter through the end of the season.[75] In Week 15, against the Pittsburgh Steelers, he recorded his first multi-touchdown performance with 182 passing yards, two touchdowns, and one interception in the 33–30 loss in a duel with fellow rookie quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.[76] In the regular season finale, Manning passed for 144 yards, three touchdowns, and one interception in the 28–24 victory over the Dallas Cowboys, getting his first win as a starter.[77] The Giants finished with a 6–10 record and were 1–6 in games that Manning started in. He finished with 1,043 passing yards, six touchdowns, and nine interceptions
True indeed. In fairness, Payton first year didn’t quite gave us the warm and comfortable feeling either.
No I had Mac as ready to be a starter day one over everyone. Not QB with most upside. If you wanted a guaranteed NFL starter Mac was the obvious pick.
Tonight P. Mahomes 15-29, 184 yards 1 rushing TD. Tomorrow, no one will will give a shit about % and praise him because he won the game. 60.5% is more than fine when you win the game. Period.
The Jets had the ball in the third quarter after the Philly field goal and went three and out. First down: Pass in the flat to Coleman, high and hard off his hands. Second down: Coleman for three on the ground, Davis banged up on the play. Third down: Jets call time out to avoid delay of game penalty. Third down .2: Ten yard pass over the middle; late and low - almost intercepted, net even close to Moore. Duvernay-Tardif lost on play. Probably best that they didn't get the ball back. Fourth down: Punt for 33 yards.
This is the Jets forum. The Jets lost. Whatever Mahomes does is irrelevant unless he's playing against the Jets. If Mahomes stinks up a game or two it doesn't make Wilson one iota better than he is.
We won’t talk about the shit show that is Bridgewater! What a horrible performance! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
So what’s the point, it was 3 and out. Coleman should have caught short pass, average run, and a bad throw, maybe cause not open. Bottom line that was last opportunity in the quarter. The D was putrid. What kind of rhythm can the O get with one possession in a quarter. That’s the point, with this D playing the way it is, it is affected the game in other areas. We get ball in 4th, and Zach is pressing cause we are behind, and desperate. Trying to be a hero, And he not ready for that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
