We realistically should've won 3 games last year and there's an extra game on the schedule this year. A 4 win season this year will barely qualify as improvement for me. We also know Gase was a horrible coach so to barely upgrade from him is nauseating. As insane as it sounds Gase would've probably taken this current roster to a 6-7 win season this year.
I know it's the thing to fire everyone at the drop of a hat but when they hired Saleh and Co they committed to what I'm gonna guess is realistically a 3 year window to show success. I don't expect anyone major except maybe Ulbrich to get the axe in the next 2 seasons, though there might be a position coach or two let go.
Keep the seats at Metlife vacant for as long as it takes till J and J are roasted by every Media outlook..thats all you can do
I am not so sure current roster is much better than what we had last year factoring injuries. Our biggest acquisitions are young and will take some time to reach full potential. While I expect main acquisition Zach to do better in the second half of the year, first half was growing pains. Flacco may be the best QB on the roster as of this moment, but it would make more sense to play Zach and let him learn on the job with the eye on next year. Biggest defensive acquisition didn't play a snap. Franchise tag guy Maye injured. Becton injured without playing half a game. Even WR Davis to be frank so far has been a major disappointment - and not because of coaching, just basic things like not catching or fumbling the ball. I think Davis may actually turn it around, but so far he sucked. This is not to say we don't have talent, but last year we had some talent too, and just I don't see how Gase wins more games than he did last year, which was 2 wins. A close loss to Chargers does not count as a win. Could have easily been one win actually if half of Browns roster didn't get COVID. We have not just rookie HC, but rookie DC and OC, and most snaps by rookies in entire NFL. I am not saying Saleh has done a great job by any stretch of imagination, but this year will be a year of growing for this team, and so far he matched what Gase has one all last season in 9 games, and I expect more wins in the next 8.
Ten weeks? Your version of "literally" is a whole lot different than mine. Joe Douglas has been here for 128 weeks! Saleh and his crew of Lost Boys have been on board for 44 weeks. No one is surprised that the team is not winning games this year but everyone is disappointed as those weeks you're looking at continue to be worse than those before.
I don't know if people are keyed in to this yet but we've been getting curb-stomped on a regular basis this season. That's not a normal part of any build process. If Mike White hadn't come out of nowhere a few weeks ago to play well we'd have been curb-stomped like 4 weeks in a row at this point and 6 out of the last 8. Teams don't give up that early in the year. Something is wrong in the locker room and it is wrong in a huge way. I'm guessing that something might have to do with a certain rookie QB blowing chunks. That would explain the Mike White chants.
If there is issues in the locker room it would likely come back to treating our leaders like expendable trash. This has been discussed already. Players know its a business but they also expect some degree of respect for the ones who have been the most loyal, and the ones who command respect in the locker room. You cant hardball Crowder and Maye and then give out large contracts to "projects" like Davis and Lawson. That can create a "don't want to be here" situation. JD's probably developing a bad reputation in the locker room. We have a hard enough time getting and retaining good players as it is.
not always. I know a few bad steelers fans who wanted ben gone 5 years ago and wants tomlin gone every year and tomlin is agreat coach and they win all the time. sometimes fans just suck, the same way players just suck
douglas has been here for 2 off seasons. typically you don't see results of a tear down until 3+ years. JD isn't even on the clock yet. he had to teardown a whole team. he's still paying for mac contracts like bell, enunwa, and tru. You can't even judge his 1st draft class yet and he hasn't really shelled out for FAs because of our cap when he took over. and the biggest one he signed blew out his knee in camp
Regarding WR Davis, I have always thought the jets should play Davis and Cole/Mims on the outside, play Moore exclusively in the slot, and Westco at TE for blocking. Crowder should have been traded before the season or at the deadline. And Berrios brings almost nothing to the table. He fair catches every punt, and his holding penalty on the opening kickoff last week cost us 20 yards and set the tone for the game. With Daniel Brown finally gone, I thought we might actually return a kickoff or punt without being called for holding.
Well, lets be fair here: last 2 weeks we were worse than a week before. A week before that we had a huge win over #1 team at the time in AFC. I also don't think next week will be worse than the one passed. So, yes, for two weeks we did look worse than a week before, that is a factual statement. But not for 10 weeks. Look I get the frustration here, and I am not even debating that Saleh sucked. Just keep in mind that he did win as many games in 9 weeks as previous coach in 16, and he and his OC and DC are rookies, and his roster has most rookie snaps in NFL. He doesn't have it figured out yet, that is clear, and this is to be expected. For instance someone like Davis we were talking earlier, needs to be held accountable by benching. Scheme could change depending on who you are facing and adjust for presence of a guy like Diggs. GVT could be benched too to send a message. There are plenty of improvements that can be made, and I believe he will figure it out in time.
Every team has it's share of detractors. You shut them down by winning games. The Jets deserve the derision... not for this season only, but for the systematic failure to field a competitive team.
I mean we beat 2 playoff caliber teams so far. we've had the hardest scheudle in the NFL. this is a team that through 9 games last year won 0 games. We won 2 far. we are improving
We've had the 11th hardest schedule in the NFL. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other We also have the worst point differential, and both our wins were by a field goal, one of which came in overtime. This is an 0-9 or 1-8 team disguised as a 2-7 team.
your link is wrong because it's including all 17 games not a "so far" so we dropped down to 11 when you account for having the 2nd easiest for the rest of the season. so 2 wins out of 9 isn't better then 0 out of 9?
I just bothered reading this thread - I'm so tired of the negativity. I'm not saying no one has the right to bitch and complain about this team, but there needs to be a reality check: - Yes, Douglas was hired 2 years ago, but it was only this year that he was able to get his own CS installed, and select his own potential FQB. The "rebuild" effectively began less than a year ago. - This roster - on paper - is far better than any roster we've had in over ten years. But it's a very thin roster and the losses to injury have been devastating. - IDK if Saleh is the answer, but IMO he has the potential to be the best HC we've had since Parcells. That said, potential isn't actuality so the jury is still out, but until it's proven that his potential is false, I'm going to believe he's the right hire for this team. - What experienced HC with a winning track record was available to be hired instead of Saleh? - Being a HC is tremendously hard. Making the leap from being even a great coordinator that is only concerned with one facet of the team to being the HC concerned with ALL facets is an impossible leap for some really talented coordinators. That's why I preferred hiring somebody who at least was a HC in college. But Saleh brings a lot to the table: he's been around football his whole and been successful; he's high energy; he's tremendously positive; he knows how to handle the press. I think it's way too early to be deciding to begin yet another rebuild.
This team has no fire.h..that comes from the top. Getting curb stomped week after week says one thing only..."We don't care". When the Jets start giving a shit... I'll start giving a shit.
I wish you would quit spouting this nonsense. QB is the most important position on the team. The Jets were in prime position in the 2021 draft to take a QB, it was a great draft for QBs, and the Jets absolutely did the right and smart thing in taking a QB. Trading down was NOT the right move. Anyone who thinks it was doesn't know jack about team building imo. If JD had done what you wanted. Joe Flacco would have been our starting QB this year, and some other JAG QB in 2022 and 2023. There are no QBs worth a damn in the 2022 draft, so we'd have been looking at the 2023 draft or the 2024 draft trying to find a QB and having to trade up again because of the additional talent that would have been added by trading down. Then a team that was loaded with talent would have been held back by a rookie QB. Brilliant!
