You know what else hurts? The Pats were bad for 1 freaking year. 1 year!!! Then they draft a rookie QB who wasn't expected to be that good and are immediately relevant again.
Find me a championship team that hasn’t bought players. There are too many positions to fill in drafts alone. Have to be effective at draft, FA, trades, and finding role players through UDFA and waivers. We’ve been doing poorly at all of the above and the results are showing as much.
A lot of homegrown talent on that team, but if the goat qb comes available again we should definitely be in on that.
Let me ask this question to the group.. Given the body of work you've seen so far, would you still hire Saleh? No poll on this one. Just tell us what you would do..
Lots more than just him that got brought onboard. It was great seeing the WFT beat them today though.
You buy a couple of top end talents to get you over the top. Not to drag you in to the playoff bubble. It’s not sustainable, we’ve lived it enough to know this.
If the Jets fire Douglas and Saleh off of this season next year will likely see a new QB also. Whether that will be a draft pick or a vet free agent is unclear but I doubt a new hire would hitch his wagon to the guy that helped get his predecessor's fired. If you're going to say that it would be a condition of the hire that Zach Wilson was first in line - well I'll tell you that is a failed hire from the moment the new guy makes that commitment. The next guy who comes in needs to have a free hand to do whatever he thinks needs to be done to get things straight and to move the Jets from flop to contender.
It’s a combination with talent building. It’s not either/or as a lot of fans like to make it. If you are effective at the draft and not FA/trades/Waivers/re-signing, the team is gonna struggle. And Vice versa. The Jets have been bad at all facets of bringing in talent lately, and it’s showing.
Agreed, this started with cman pining for a bunch of a listers. Obviously you can’t field 50 draft picks, although Douglas is stockpiling picks like he wants to try. But your best players, mostly need to be draft picks. Tampa signing the goat aside.
The Steelers, Packers, Ravens, Colts and Patriots rarely dipped into free agency over the years. Those five teams account for most of the championships over the past 20 years.
I dont know if there is any argument that he was the right hire. I think its fair to say that the jury is still out. I'm not exactly enthusiastic about Saleh right now. The defense is god awful, and the penalties aren't great either.
Goat my ass. That Tampa team is stacked! Can’t run on them at all, and talent at every level on both sides of the ball. And they are coached very well to boot. it doesn’t matter where you find talent, it doesn’t have to be all draft. Draft picks if any good need to be re-signed, which is no different than FA. Our problem is we haven’t done anything well. We don’t draft well, don’t re-sign anyone, and have either sat on hands or flat out whiffed in FA. Our current path is a long slow process which isn’t going anywhere. I’m with Cman.
I agree with your original post. I think this team needs a coach with experience and a proven track record. I’m getting tired of being the nfl head coach farm team
Do you think all the players on those teams are draft picks on first contract? of course not, they re-sign their own, make trades, and of course sign FAs. Not all FA are high priced ones.
I won't. The record is likely to be bad and the way they get there is likely to be very bad and frankly the fans are fed up. I think the pressure on the ownership is likely to be extraordinary by the end of the season. "Sell the team Woody!" banners over the stadium and the like. The Jets are on pace to be outscored by nearly 250 points this season. That's not bad - that's horrible.
Most of the players on those teams were drafted by the organization. NFL championship teams are born through the draft. Show me the big free agents any of those teams brought in sans Randy Moss (who never won a championship by the way)?
