No two ways about it...Zach laid an egg

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  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Except the post he's getting slammed for was made when the Jets were 0 - 3 a week before they won anything. Some of the same people beating him up now were ready to fire everyone when he made his post.
     
  2. cval

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    No, the post was #340. It was posted on Monday.
     
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  3. Ralebird

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    His post #333 sat for a week before the first critical comment came and that came only after the Jets won a game. The post you cite was an extension of the conversation that no one wanted to start until the win. No one needs to agree with what he said on September 26 or on Monday but the fact that no one bothered to comment until the squeaked out win does not go away. People here change with the tide and one win and a handful of good plays were enough to change many minds; it looks like Brad's was not one so easily changed.
     
  4. Acad23

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    So he's dumb AND stubborn?
     
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  5. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Wrong. if Zach hits Davis on the out called by LaFleur game is over before OT.
     
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  6. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Though I’m glad we went into OT. It showed really what this team and coaching staff was made of. Right now our weak spot is consistent playcalling, but it’s getting better.
     
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  7. Red Menace

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    Are you simply going to ignore Salehs terrible clock management and the 2:21 left on the board, or the pass interference call that allowed the Titans to keep the drive alive?

    The clock management by Saleh was horrific on that drive. At the end of the game you try to manage away as much time off the clock as you can. When you have Aaron Rodgers or Brady you take the risk and ask them to make that play.

    The incompletion stopped the clock with 2:21 seconds left. Gave the Titans plenty of time to put together an offensive strategy without worrying about time. Even then the defense did not make the stop and allowed a game tying TD.


    I know you guys don’t like Wilson and JD but it’s like you are literally watching these games with preconceived ideas that fit your narrative.

    They won the game because all three facets of the team contributed to the win. It’s the only thing I want to see going forward.

    Complete team play!
     
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  8. jilozzo

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    hope u deplorables realize that its entirely possible what we saw this past sunday is the young QB's inflection point so to say. Similar to pennington against the chiefs in 02, todd against the saints in 81, hell even marino against the jets in 83.......to name only a few that we are all familiar with.....

    NOT saying its peyton manning from here on out BUT i think we expected this type of game after weeks 8 or 9 - and we got it in week 4.

    this is yuge and something this team sorely needs to escape the 40 - 50 year QB curse.
     
  9. cval

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    I think your reading comprehension is a bit off. He was commenting on the game this past Sunday.
     
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  10. Noam

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    I disagree on the clock management. If you run the ball on 3rd down you save 20 seconds and give the ball back to Tenn with just under 2 minutes. If you pass it and get the 1st you can take a knee and the game is over. There is not much difference in the 20 seconds but going for it you have a chance to end the game.

    Rather the reverse here is true this was great next generation Belichick type clock management by Saleh. Rather than playing it conservatively to punt and then watch the other team drive the length of the field they played to win the game. If Zach executed the play properly the game would have been over.
     
  11. Red Menace

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    Tennessee scored with exactly 19 seconds left in the game. If Saleh gets it down to the 2 minute warning, and punts the ball those 19 seconds don’t exist and Tennessee can’t run another play.

    That’s why you take off as much clock as you can, HC have been using time management as part of their strategy to win games for years.

    I’m not denying the play needs to be made by Zack, its a reason why many HC don’t attempt that because the incompletion stops the clock and helps the opposing team.
     
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  12. Noam

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    I don't think it makes a difference if there were 19 secs less Tenn just moves a little faster. 2 minutes is plenty of time to go down the field. Saving 20 seconds is of little to no benefit.

    Rather I am really happy the CS did not play to lose but rather called a play that had a chance of winning the game for us. In the modern NFL defenses do not do well in these type of situations. The way to win is to be aggressive and end the game with your offense.
     
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    Man your butt buddy Sam Darnold got shipped off and you’ve been nonstop negativity ever since.
     
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    It doesn't work like that. The Titans entire last drive looks different had they started with less time.

    We did the right thing playing to win instead of not to lose. Jets teams of years past would've run the ball for -1 yards there and hoped for the best. If Zach makes that easy throw the game is over.
     
  15. K'OB

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    A mediocre QB couldn't throw that but @Br4d says he is mediocre so I'm left in a quandary as to what to believe, my eyes or a rabid guy on the net?
     
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    I think you both have made excellent points. IMO what it boils down to is that HCs can either take an aggressive approach and try to win the game outright, where there is at least the illusion of having control, or they can take the more traditional and somewhat passive approach of taking as much time as they can off the clock, punting the ball and hoping that their D can stop the other team from scoring. I don't know what the percentages or stats are on either approach, but I suspect (although I could be dead wrong) that the latter approach is akin to the "prevent" D that so many team use at the end of the game that so often fails. I think that either approach is valid. Both can work and both can fail. Personally, I've always liked the more aggressive approach. Try to take matters in one's own hands and try to win the game outright. Which a HC chooses depends upon a lot of factors...trust in his QB, trust in his D, trust in his receivers, weather conditions, whether he's at home or on the road, what their record is, where the team is in its development, etc.
     
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  17. Jets-N-Terps

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    Did I hear that somewhere before???
     
  18. Acad23

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    Well... @Ralebird backed his hot take that the Jets will be looking for a new QB in next year's draft.

    If that's not enough to sway your opinion... :confused:
     
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  19. Red Menace

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    That’s my point, less time and more pressure on Tanehill and CS to be perfect which increases the chance of mistakes.

    We will have to agree to disagree on this one, I’m glad they won the game and I’m hoping Saleh learns to manage the clock better.
     
  20. K'OB

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    I'll just leave this here...

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