Is calling anyone "feeble minded, "dumb" and "a dick" an appropriate topic of the conversation? Or are you just doing it to make things personal because you made fake accusations and got called out on it and have nothing else? Just own the shit you write and you won't need to continue to embarrass yourself. It's what adults do.
is being a dick helpful to the conversation? You don't get to be a dick and then throw a hissyfit when someone calls you out on it. That's not what adults do but it's what you are doing right now. How about stop being a dick and we'll drop it and move on instead of derailing the thread? You can think what you want. your opinion means less then 0 to me. But stop shitting up the thread with your giant hissyfit and act like an adult. or keep throwing one, no skin off my back it's why your opinion has no worth to me.
Bullshit! You claimed I shit on Wilson. That was not true and when I told you that was phony you didn't man up or support your claim but denied you said it. When I showed your quote you ignored it completely. Weak shit - so who's the dick? Just own the crap you write and not try to weasel out of it. That's what adults do.
Nice succinct summary of Douglas' options, and why Joe made a horrific choice which will be burden the franchise for years. Politicians like to say "Elections have consequences." So do bad draft decisions, and Joe will regret this one, although he will never admit it. It almost makes me laugh that some posters on this board REALLY believe that Zach Wilson is still worth/better than Sam and three first round picks. I'd take Sam even up for Zach right now on the jets, although Carolina would laugh at us if we ever proposed that now.
I remember Nagle all to well, as well as Glenn Foley and all the other pretenders/losers at QB the Jets have drafted over the years. I've been a fan of this God-forsaken team since 1964 or '65 (whichever year Namath was drafted). If you read what any of the media experts have said, then you know that they are still talking in glowing terms about Zach's potential and things that he is doing well/right even when he makes mistakes on the field. If you were getting pressured and getting hammered the way Zach has been, have seen your receivers drop the ball on 11% of your passes and seen them not catch a number of other catchable balls that would have sustained drives and possibly led to points, and been victimized by your OC's horrible game plans and play calling, you'd be making mistakes too and trying to do too much as well. If he doesn't get seriously injured or ruined by the pounding, he will learn. He has the work and study habits, the talent, and the smarts to learn. The Jets just have to fix the OL, receivers have to catch the ball, and LaFleur has to pull his head out of his ass, and start helping Zach by doing a better job of game planning and play calling, and working with him during the game to calm him down and get him in a groove early in games.
What do you think your response was? You're trying to have the last word, and you aren't acting in a very mature, adult, or civil fashion, and I don't have a dog in the fight.
Your case for Wilson and the draft decision would be much more persuasive if you assigned a least a little more blame to Zach. Your last line makes it sound like everyone's fault, but is. I don't blame Zach for the jets foolish overreach--it is Douglas's fault. Like Sanchez, Zach only had one good year in college, and in fact his starting job was in jeopardy going into the start of last season. In the pros, Zach is not playing the creampuff schedule, and as I said he looks like a middle schooler scrimmaging the varsity.. Douglas should have factored Wilson's college competition into his decision, regardless of what Chris Simms crowed about Wilson last spring. By the way, has Simms commented yet on Zach in 2021? Or is that the "glowing terms" you refer to? Ugh, I have watched all three of Sam's games and all three of Zach's, and I think of what we could have had now with Sam and those extra picks, instead of Zach.
Zach has definitely made mistakes. He had a bad game vs NE. He is rattled by the pass rush and it is affecting his mechanics and accuracy. He has ignored checkdowns and held the ball too long at times. I'm not saying that he hasn't made mistakes. He has, but he's a rookie, and he's obviously getting no coaching or help from Cavanaugh or LaFleur. You wouldn't be seeing the same Sam as he is with Carolina this year if he were still here. That's delusional. He's only better because he's away from here and the horrific OL play and he's getting good coaching.
my response was ending it with him. I was being a dick to him, because he was being a dick to multiple people. I called him out. I'm done with it. you do you. don't really care. You are the 1st to attack anyone who disagrees with you all the time. I just call people out for being dicks when they consistently do it all the time. Just like I did with vilma and leglar during the draft and then put them on block. That simple. it is mature and you don't see that, then IDK what to tell you bud.
LOL whatever. As I figured, you think you're the only mature one and are quick to judge others. Hopefully, one of these days, you'll wake up and see yourself as others see you. I do not attack people for disagreeing with me. I attack their opinions when they have no basis in fact or reality. It's never personal with me unless that poster has made it personal. There are only 4 -5 posters on this site that I wouldn't enjoy sitting down and having a cold beer with.
Nah it's just I've been on this forum as the nice guy for 6 years while others have been dicks constantly. Who have I ever been a dick to for my 1st 5.5 years here? despite constantly being attacked for voicing my opinion. Hell I was harassed for months for not liking mayfield and for liking allen and jackson. Then there was a few users this offseason who were giant dicks to anyone who preferred wilson to fields so I was a dick back to them. Then I moved on. Figured maybe being reasonable others would catch on, but nope it won't change so if everyone is gonna be a dick, i'll be a dick too. ralebird has been throwing a fit for 10 pages when he butted into a conversation i was having with someone else because he didn't like that I said all the rookies are struggling. That was it. and for 10 pages he continues to harp on it. if he doesn't understand why we compare similar players or similar situations then he can move on. I tried to explain it, he was being a dick about it and wasn't getting it so I was a dick back to call him out on it and now i'm done. But you jumped in now to continue it for whatever reason. Fine you think i'm a dick, call me a dick and move on. I'm not gonna get butthurt about it. no reason to continue to go off topic. Not everyone here is gonna be best friends.
I wasn't referring to your exchange with Ralebird, but rather papapump. FTR, I don't think you're a dick, just think you're a little too sure of yourself. I am opinionated, but when I realize that I'm mistaken or wrong, I admit it and own it, and I have enough self awareness to realize when I'm being an ass/dick. IMO a big part of the problem with disputes on this and similar internet sites is the anonymity of the internet, how people use language differently, and how they perceive things differently. You see someone as being insecure/too sensitive, others may see you as being a dick and insensitive. That all depends upon each person's perception and experiences, and those may or may not be valid depending upon how self aware they are. We all filter experiences and others' words to us through our own views of life and reality. I never said or expected everyone to be best friends.
Well when people but in at the tail end thats what happens. I was already in dick mode and dude jumped in out of nowhere with no idea of anything. its the old NFL adage the guy who pushes 2nd is the one who gets flagged by the refs. As far as being sure of myself it's not that. it's that I'll check and confirm things if someone saw something different then me. it's like the whole wilson fields thing. I didn't say anyone was wrong. I asked them to tell me what they see that i'm missing so I could look for it. of course nobody did. I had an exchange the other day on the 3rd and 6 play where I said berrios was open if the blocking was better or zach escapes and someone said no he was already on the ground. If I was sure of myself or like most people I would have called him an idiot but I didn't. I went and rewatched it to make sure I was right, then took screenshots and posted it and they were like oh I guess you were right and that was that. I own my mistakes I dont' care about fucking somehting up. I constantly 2nd guess myself. And i'm fully aware when i'm being a dick. I agree the issue is anonymity. people on the internet behave in ways they wouldn't in person simply because they can with no consequence. It's liek a game or playing GTA. you run over people, murder the cops, and steal cars. But you wouldn't do that in real life. So on the internet people think they are basically dealing with a screen and not a person on the other side. I agree it's all perception but it's not my job to not offend people. Even if it's not my intent and people take it that way, i'm not going to apologize because someone misunderstood something on the internet and got offended by it. Maybe they should just not take it too serious? I mean papa is still attempting to insult me by calling me young lol Not even sure how it's an insult. I've met teenagers more well adjusted then the seniors on here and man I wish I was still young. But again that's the point someone got offended and still feels the need to try and sling insults because they got upset and feel they have to vindicate things righteously by trying to upset other people. it's the same thing we seen with the fields/wilson thing. people were upset we weren't taking fields so they tried to upset all the people who were happy we were taking wilson. it's an extremely immature way of trying to make yourself feel better about reality. The big issue is people can't just disagree or drop things. I mean I had a discussion with dahl here. we didn't agree. I explained my side, he didn't see it, he explained his, I didn't see it. We agreed to disagree and drop it like adults. Many others here like ralebird just aren't capable. and you are aware enough to know you have your moments when people disagree with you and you start being a dick about it. but otherwise you are a good poster, as are many others here when they want to be. But a few people add nothing and are just here to be the token miserable jet fan, which it's a forum and they can be. I just choose not to deal with those people. if people don't want to deal with me, then they don't have to. there is an ignore button for that.
More revisionist history. I was involved in this thread ten hours and thirty posts before you made your first claim which did not speak to the topic of the OP that was getting rid of Darnold in favor of drafting Wilson but for some reason you talked about two other guys who are doing lousy. I simply stated that they didn't matter to the fact that this team is lousy and you continuously tried to make a case that they did. It simply reeked of excuse making and many of us have put up with forty or more years of excuses - we don't need any more. But I do congratulate you on admitting that you are a dick.
well at least 1 of us admits it. Maybe your history is revisionist so here I'll try 1 more time to explain it to you nicely then i'm going back to dick mode if you don't get it. I wasn't talking to you, I was speaking with someone else. You butted in saying you didn't agree with what I said and well not in a very nice way but an over the top way. I tried explaining why it matters, you didn't understand it. So I wanted to drop it and move on, we were at a dead end. You harped on it over and over and over and were being a dick to me, so I was a dick right back. Then you got mad at me being a dick and someone jumped in later and only seen me being a dick and decided to chime in, so i was a dick back. it's pretty simple to follow. So again either you can just drop it or i'll keep being a dick to you until you do. If you didn't get this explanation for the 20th time.
Spin it any way you want - here is exactly what you said and my entire first post verbatim in reply to you in this thread, which is in an open forum, not a private discussion: YOU: "mac jones is struggling as well even with bill making things as easy as they can be on him. all the rookie QBs had a bad week 3. fields was probably the worse overall leading the bears to a total of 1 net passing yard in the game." ME: "All those other guys sucking does not make Wilson or the Jets one iota better. Why do so many here want to try to rationalize by citing the mess of others?" This is "over the top"? This is "not in a very nice way"? This doesn't even "disagree" with anything you posted. Aren't you the one who told me about having a thicker skin? And you're right, I was a bit angry at you for claiming things I never said and your refusal to man up to them; I have a problem with people putting words in my mouth. But you do you, and I'll do me and we all know what a stand up guy you are.
no that wasn't but it shortly turned that way when i explained why you compare and you were closed minded and started getting pissy about it. Listen I get we are all passionate fans. and the jets suck. and they have sucked well since the beginning of their existence but more recently for over the past decade and people are tired of it. But that doesn't mean we throw all logic out the window because speaking from emotions only doesn't lend to an actual discussion
