Great Mangini Interview

Mangini is one of the guys you might give full control of a team to now that he is older and in theory less self-focused.

He's always had a good eye for talent and he also understands the limits of what any coach or GM can do if the entire system isn't setup to form the team up for long-term competition.

To make it clear: you wouldn't hire him if you thought any of Mangenius still lived in him. You'd hire him if you thought he was capable of focusing completely on the team and organization without making loud waves in the process.

 

I thought Mangini was a solid coach and he deserved more time here. He got wrapped In a bad situation with Cleveland afterwards for the sake of being a HC again. He dealt with it.

Guy got a bad beat. I liked him then and I still like him.

 

It's an okay interview, but they didn't ask him any tough questions like:

Were you on board with bringing Favre here?
What really went went wrong at the end of that season?
What was the reason they told you they were letting you go?

 

Mangini could've been good. But he tried to hard too hard to be like Bill Belichick and not Eric Mangini.

And for that he was a follower and not a leader.

Because a leader would've benched Favre, told his consecutive games played streak to piss off and put in a QB who could've at least thrown a football.

 

None of those questions would have resolved much because the answers likely would have been very broad if he was completely truthful.

The Favre decision was not in his hands and he was probably all over the map on it at various points in the process.

The Jets were never going to win through the Favre shoulder injury.

Everybody knows that Mangini was let go to save Mike Tannenbaum's job after the Favre trade blew up on the Jets at the end of the season. Mangini also had a higher profile than he should have had at that point due to the Mangenius stuff in 2006 and the Jets collapse in 2007. When 2008 turned into a rollercoaster of a season it really sealed his fate with the Jets. Another organization might have handled the situation better, however the Jets were kind of unique at that point in terms of high-priced free agents and trades and expecting immediate returns.

 

The reason I would have asked those questions is:

1. Mangini coaching style was about discipline and Favre was a very undisciplined player (and person as it turned out.) So it's hard to accept that Mangini would have wanted a player like him. Of course, once he was signed, Mangini had to say all the right things about him, including naming his son after Favre.
2. The accepted story is that Favre injured his arm and couldn't throw, but I never saw an injury report to that effect which is required when a player gets hurt.
3. Mangini had a successful 1st year, the second year he had QB #1 and QB #2 go down in the same game, early in the season, so he shouldn't have been held accountable for that season. If it was Tanny and Woody that wanted Favre here, then Mangini shouldn't have been held responsible for that train wreck either. I'd be curious as to what they told him on the way out.

 

I've always thought he still had some HC life in him, given that he was young when the Jets hired him. Going directly to the Browns after getting fired here was a mistake obviously, as it is most of the time with coaches. (Gase) At this point I do not see it happening since the hires now are SO young and he's not.

I was hoping to hear him talk about what he wants out of football in the future, This interview was just OK. The best part was the D'Brick/ Vernon Davis story. For those of you who did not know much about his story before, the interview would be more interesting.

 

Every time I see people talking about what a great GM-style head coach Mangini could have turned into, I remember the story of him waving combine numbers in Vernon Gholston's face in the meeting room.

Aside from drafting Revis, the lone bright spot for me with Mangini was the Favre season, and that season was almost all Favre.

Rex showed up and took what Mangini left and turned it into a top 5 defense and playoffs immediately with a rookie QB. That tells me all I need to know about Mangini.

 

It was close to the same scenario in 2006 for Mangini.

Chad threw 17 TD's and 16 Int's that season and the Jets went 10-6 playoffs with a top 6 defense.

There's often a bounce back effect for the Jet's new HC in his first season (Herm in 2001 also). This is because the Jet's talent acquisition plan often has an almost complete roster due to free agency, however it is one that is going to begin falling apart fairly quickly because too many key pieces are post-prime or headed there. The previous season there were key injuries and dropouts and they got the old HC fired. The new guy comes in and the injuries heal and for a season, maybe two at the outside he's golden. Then the whole process starts again as the roster disintegrates.

This iteration of the Jets that Saleh inherited is an exception. They're just terrible at the start and although he may win a few more games than the last guy they're still going to be terrible headed into 2022.

 

Farve had a shoulder injury that made him hold the ball too long and continually throw downfield into double coverage. I hate shoulder injuries.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=4239344

If he didn't have a sore shoulder down the stretch the coverup continued into 2009 and to another team - The Vikings.

 

gholston was a key ingredient to mangini's demise with johnson.

 

I'm a fan of many of your posts but I disagree here. I feel the 2021 Jets are going to surprise a lot of people. In 2022 they will be contenders. The difference between last year's team and the current one is talent. It is there at the key positions now, whereas before it was absent.

 

I always believed Mangini got the short end of the stick. He set up the foundation for those 2009 and 2010 teams. Farve was a Woody Johnson decision. Gholston was the only blemish on his draft resume. He would’ve made a better GM than coach.

 

I guess we all have our perceptions--I thought he was a son-of-a-bitch and still credit him with ruining Justin Miller who was a great KO returner. My memory is Justin celebrated a return for TD too much, got into Mangini's doghouse, and never got out. No-one could ever get out of his doghouse--he was gase-like in that matter. You wouldn't want to work for the bitch.

https://www.newyorkjets.com/video/2006-week-8-vs-cleveland-justin-miller-return-2437495

 

I really dislike guys who never let a player out of their doghouse.

 

Deserves credit for the job he did in 2006..... otherwise he sucked balls. 2008 consisted of some of the shittiest play calling / game-planning I've ever seen....

 

Dude, the Jets put up 56 points on the Cardinals in week 4.

They were averaging 30 pts a game before Favre's torn bicep.

You're forgetting what that season was like.

 

yeah, and he fell in love with that and didnt readjust when he needed too / should have....