Smith show a lot of promise in 2019 both as a receiver and a gunner. I’m not 100% sure that mims potential out weighs all that plus a pick. I think Smith is making this roster with or without mims.
Jets fans need to wake up and face reality. DENZEL MIMS is a 6'3 (physical WR) with 4.3 speed and has really good hands and also as tough as they come in regards to making catches in traffic (led the NCAA in that regard). He's exactly what you want and what you're looking for in an outside WR prospect. People are QUITTING on Denzel Mims and all because of... A.) Rookie hamstring injury. B.) Awful QBs in washed up Flacco and 42nd QB Rating Sam Darnold. C.) Bust Perriman playing opposite of him. D.) 40 year old Frank Gore as his RB "threat". E.) Awful O-lineman (outside of Mekhi Becton). F.) D. Loggains as his OC. G.) Adam Gase as his HC/Play Caller. And some fans are actually QUITTING on this kid before entering year #2? Fk that shit man! No rookie would've looked like Jerry Rice under those horse crap 2-14 circumstances. OC: LaFleur. QB: Zach Wilson. LT: Mekhi Becton. LG: Alijah Vera-Tucker. RT: Morgan Moses. WR 1: Corey Davis. WR 2: DENZEL MIMS. Slot: Elijah Moore (will be utilized everywhere). WR 4: Jamison Crowder. RB: Michael Carter. How about we first (at least) give the kid a freaking CHANCE before throwing him away in a "trade"? (This is reminding me of NYK fans absolutely quitting on R.J. Barrett after his Rookie season due to being surrounded by absolute crap. Now look. 2nd year last year? Damn near All-Star numbers at only 21 years old and helped Julius Randle lead us to the playoffs). I'm sorry but this recent Denzel Mims talk imo has been disgusting and it's frustrating for me to read about every day.
I think you have your smiths mixed up. Jeff is not making this roster. Vincent is an nfl receiver and above average gunner. As for mims, it maybe too early to give up on him but when/if it becomes the right time there will not be a market to trade him. It’s all about timing.
The reality is 3 receivers were added to the roster and all quickly jumped ahead of mims. That can’t be ignored. The staff took over , looked at his tape,both pro and college and promptly went shopping for receivers.
Now close your eyes and imagine a world where the greatest GM in Jets history didn't pass up on Chase Claypool to trade down and take Mims.
Sorry but this is based off Cimini stirring shit. Mims isn't going anywhere. Douglas is not cutting him this year.
Who says he's been passed up on the depth chart? I'll have to see it to believe it because both Corey Davis and Denzel Mims will (imo) be our starting WRs on the outside come week 1 @ Carolina.
Now close your eyes and imagine a world where Claypool wasn't protected by Mike Tomlin, future HOF Ben Roethlisberger, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Diontae Johnson and Eric Ebron but instead? Drafted into... A.) Awful QBs in washed up Flacco and 42nd QB Rating Sam Darnold. B.) Bust Perriman playing opposite of him. C.) 40 year old Frank Gore as his RB "threat". D.) Awful O-lineman (outside of Mekhi Becton). E.) D. Loggains as his OC. F.) Adam Gase as his HC/Play Caller. Etc. "Chase Claypool" would've done absolutely nothingness on the 2-14 Jets and being drafted by the freaking PITTSBURGH STEELERS doesn't mean he's "better than Denzel Mims". Denzel Mims final 3 years @ Baylor: 37 Games. 182 Receptions. 2,921 Receiving yards. 16.0 yards per catch. 28 TD Receptions. Chase Claypool final 3 years @ Notre Dame: 37 Games. 145 Receptions. 2,078 Receiving yards. 14.3 yards per catch. 19 TD Receptions. Denzel Mims kicked Claypool's ass throughout each and every statistical category know to (WR) mankind and the only difference is that Claypool was drafted into WR heaven while Mims was drafted into WR hell. Some of you Claypool over Mins fans imo are pretty extreme (and not understanding the big picture). And if you think Claypool would've looked like he did in 2-14 NYJ as he did in Pittsburgh not only are you mistaken but you're wrong.
The only way Denzel Mims ends up ahead of Elijah Moore on the depth chart this year is if Moore is injured. IMO.
Elijah Moore will become the Revis of the WR position in terms of playing all over the field @ #1 WR, #2 WR, Slot Receiver and also coming out of the backfield. But the WR Depth Chart will look like this... WR 1 on the outside = Corey Davis. WR 2 on the outside = Denzel Mims. Slot Receiver X-Factor = Elijah Moore. WR 4 working the inside when 4 wide = Jamison Crowder. I followed Elijah Moore's career months before the Jets drafted this kid, created a thread about him etc and yes he can ball out on the outside too but if you don't think Elijah Moore won't be utilized as an X-Factor working out of the slot more times than not? Imo you don't know what Elijah Moore's game is all about and what makes him dangerous.
So you think the plan is to start mims but limit the snaps he sees with the rookie qb during practice? Barring injury the top 3 are Davis Moore and crowder . I don’t know why anyone would think otherwise based on camp reports.
X: Corey Davis. Big enough to beat most jams at the LOS and has quick enough feet to recover, great wingspan for low-thrown slants, strong blocker for the run. Z: Elijah Moore. Get over his size, he gets separation with his eyes closed and he'll probably have the lowest drops rate of any Jets receiver while he plays here. He is also a good blocker. Yes he can play anywhere, but when you have a slot receiver as good as Crowder, you don't make him split time with a rookie who is shaping up to be the best receiver on the team so that Denzel Babysteps can learn to run routes on the job. Y: Crowder. See above. Also, it doesn't matter to me when you say you followed someone or how long or how passionately, that is probably the least important detail of any argument on this forum and it's always the first one you make. Nobody cares, and at this point I doubt most people here believe you.
"Robert Saleh Sheds Light on Jets Wide Receiver ‘Rotation" Robert Saleh says: “Yeah so he’s working through some things,” the Jets HC said regarding Mims, “but him coming back [from illness] and working into the groove, all those receivers are part of a rotation, so you see guys, 1s, 2s, 3s and if I look at the rep count it’s darn-near even all the way across the board to give all those guys the same opportunities and the looks and to be able to put them in positions where we know that they’re going to be able to get the ball based on a play. Denzel Mims is a very talented young man and it’s going to piece together for him, we just gotta keep working with him.” You guys are falling for click bait articles written by well known HACKS and it's funny to me.
College stats are great and going into the draft that’s all you have to go on, but as we all know they don’t always transfer to the NFL…plenty of great college players at all positions that just could not do it in the NFL for whatever reason, be it injuries or competition level or scheme
I can't do that because imo Mims was a MUCH better prospect than Claypool. So far, Claypool has been the much better pro, but we'll see if that continues.
That's not what a lot of the reporters have been saying. They said that Jeff Smith could stick because of his YAC potential. Actually, I'll be surprised if either sticks. I love Vincent's size and speed. If he learns to focus and/or doesn't have stone hands, I'll be glad to see him stick around. If Mims is soft mentally, or if this system is too difficult for him to learn, and/or if he is constantly going to be sick/injured, then I have no problems with Mims not being on the team whether it be by trade or release. I think Mims will come around. He's too talented not to. I'll be absolutely gobsmacked if V. Smith makes the team over Mims.
The only WR’s who haven’t run with the 2’s and 3’s are Cole and Davis. I expect those will be the WR’s to start with Moore getting mixed in EVEYWHERE on the field. Crowder is great in the slot so he will get PT. Mims is in a bit of a numbers crunch and being that he’s still raw in terms of route running, he’s behind a little. Berrios runs good routes and can play specials. I think he has a shot of the roster too. This seems like much to do about nothing because Mims still needs time. And next year Cole and Crowder are likely off the roster, leaving you with just Davis and Moore as likely WR’s. Mims needs time.
