Fields, Wilson, Jones, Trask, Lance (Volume 3)

Discussion in 'Draft' started by Brook!, Apr 8, 2021.

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Who would you pick at #2?

  1. Fields

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  2. Wilson

    58.8%
  3. Other - Please Explain

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  4. Trade Down

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  1. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    He won't get away with this in the NFL.
     
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  2. ouchy

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    Secret cameras?

    Its official. Wilson is a Patriot at heart.
     
  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    How it false? Doing something more frequently than someone else does not mean it's done a lot.

    It is in no way shape or form obvious that you were comparing him to the other prospects. You were making an overall statement about his play style.
     
  4. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    You are just “starting to hope” for that? Really?

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  5. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    I actually agree this is borderline psychotic. Could be a good or bad thing though depending upon how you look at it.
     
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    patleahy Well-Known Member

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    What about Pitts, ouchy, if you are deadset against taking a QB at 2...he is supposedly a generational talent and a can't miss prospect
     
  7. REVISion

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    Of course it does because it's all relative. We're not looking at things in a vacuum. It's not a good thing, in my opinion, if your QB looks to scramble twice as often as others when pressured. I prefer a QB who looks to pass above all else. Fields does not do that compared to our other choices.

    We are literally commenting in a thread designated for comparing the prospects. Why would you think I was comparing him to anyone else? The logical assumption would be that I was comparing him to the other prospects.

    This is getting silly.
     
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  8. Snatch Catch

    Snatch Catch Well-Known Member

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    I did a whole bunch of dumb stuff in college, too, but this isn't just dumb to me. Setting up a system that ends with you watching your friends interact when they think you're not there is intelligence manifesting in a highly disturbing way.

    I'm not trying to kill the kid or the pick, I'm just saying for me personally that is a really troubling/worrying anecdote (and again, the first I have seen with Wilson). I honestly can't believe they used it as the lede of an article meant to praise him.
     
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  9. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It's certainly a bit different than being rolled down the stairs in a shopping cart.
     
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  10. ouchy

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    Nah, Pitts is the most over rated and risky blue chip on the board. In fact, the only reason I list him as a blue chip is because so many other people have hyped him. If it were up to me he'd be rated lower. He's not a good enough blocker to be a traditional TE and he is too big to be a dominant X/Z wideout. So he is a flex/slot/Y type guy who could play hybrid TE. Maybe he will translate to the NFL, maybe not. Too risky at 2, or top 10 really. If he goes to the wrong system he could bust.
     
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    I'm not gonna pretend it's normal behavior or anything but it's clearly a joke amongst friends. My roommate and I unscrewed our suitemate's peephole and fired a bottle rocket into his room while he was having sex. We share laughs about that to this day. Could you imagine if that was a story that came out about a top QB prospect?
     
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    Trying to think of a way to spin this camera story into a "Wilson is psychotically competitive!" positive narrative.
     
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  13. GasedAndConfused

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    really?

    this is a video someone posted earlier to highlight fields ability. explain this

    :16 - clean pocket, all day to throw. WR2 wide open for a TD he takes off running instead. never seen the guy wide open. his 1st read wasn't so he ran
    :38 -roll out in the red zone. he has WR6 wide open for an easy TD. never sees it because he is locked onto his 1st read waiting to get open. throws it up high and his WR makes a amazing play for the TD but still
    3:22 - escapes the blitzer then immediate takes off. never looks downfield at all. can't see if anyone was open from the camera angle but he didn't even look
    3:35 - same thing. escapes pressure and immediately takes off. never looks downfield. 88 was open
    4:16 - RB wide open for an easy TD on a swing. never looks at him, 88 wide open in the end zone. never looks at him. starts to scramble 82 wide open never looks downfield.

    He uses his speed as a crutch. he locks into 1 WR and waits for them to get open and if they don't he takes off. he looks like a great college QB on film, not a great NFL QB. Now this is a highlight reel and all these plays went positive because his speed but not because he was playing smart or playing the QB position well. he just doesn't see the field well. he's benefited from his 1st read WRs getting open a lot and his speed. it's not something that translates greatly to the NFL
     
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    Haha, you see, that's great "dumb college stuff".

    Lord knows I did similar things like you're describing in college - breaking things, destroying things, disrupting things, stealing things, fighting, etc. If it happened with an NFL prospect I'd simply chalk it up to the kid being an immature idiot, and evaluate if I thought he'd outgrow it. For me personally what Wilson did is a different category than all that stuff, but I understand veryone may not separate it out that way.
     
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    I've been telling him he's better then that for 3 weeks straight now. I don't think he is at this point. he's ruined this thread several times over. only posts 1 liners that are trolling. outside of being right about mahomes 4 years ago (and he wasn't the only one) I don't see what makes him "better then that" he's brought nothing to the QB discussion this year at all.
     
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    Don't bother. Vilma has decided that since the source of the stat is someone who works at PFF it's automatically invalid.
     
  17. patleahy

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    haha I like how you borrowed my "you're better than that" line, NCJetsfan, lol. well-done! :);)
     
  18. BroadwayAaron

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    I dunno, I guess in my head I just see him popping out of his room going "see I caught you fuckers" and everyone laughing. I feel like everyone else is viewing this as him sitting in a quiet control room with multiple cameras, surveying every move and taking detailed notes about each roommates' habits and actions.
     
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    It’s super condescending IMO
     
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  20. patleahy

    patleahy Well-Known Member

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    legler, I don't presume to speak for NC, since he is obv capable of doing that himself as one of the best posters on the board, but in his defense, I think he was actually complimenting you when he said that. He was basically saying that he respects your football knowledge, and that he thinks you are basically "above" pretending as if you dont understand something, when it is obvious from the quality of your other posts, that you have a high football IQ and are more than capable of understanding the points that others (NC, Noam, Gazed, BroadwaySam, REVISIon, et. al.) have made in support of Zach. I believe that is all he was saying, he didnt intend it to be taken as condescension, I am sure.
     
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