Fields, Wilson, Jones, Trask, Lance (Volume 3)

Discussion in 'Draft' started by Brook!, Apr 8, 2021.

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Who would you pick at #2?

  1. Fields

    26.8%
  2. Wilson

    58.8%
  3. Other - Please Explain

    2.1%
  4. Trade Down

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    it just so happens that anytime he made a great throw the defender had 0 awareness but fields was throwing against people who are future all pros huh? you guys just sound worse and worse each time
     
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  2. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    if thats what you came away with, thats on you ... im simply refuting your assertion that, "a covered WR is a covered WR regardless"
     
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  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Kyle Wilson stuck to receivers like glue honestly. He was just a lost soul as soon as the ball left the quarterbacks hands.
     
  4. Justin Miller was the same deal.Maybe even moreso
     
  5. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Glue might be a bit generous.
     
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  6. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    There you go making an ass out of yourself again. It's becoming quite the daily occurrence with you.

    FWIW, the "post" you quoted was about Namath thinking the Jets should take Mac Jones. I had missed that there was already a thread on it. I only saw the thread after I had posted the article, so I came back to this thread and deleted the post.
     
  7. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    Miller should've just been a return man. It's something he excelled at.
     
  8. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    If you watched that film and think he doesn't have elite traits then there is no convincing you otherwise but I see a ton of elite traits. his arm talent is already better then most starting Qbs in the NFL. his release is elite and lightning quick, his improv skills are elite, his ability to change arm angles to make throws other QBs can't is elite. his ability to keep eyes downfield when scrambling is elite. I'm not villianizing anything or anyone. everyone is entitled to their own opinion. but we went over 100 pages without any of these comments. to the point I was begging the pro fields/anti wilson people to give their analysts on what they are seeing that i may be missing and nobody could answer it. If the concerns were actual and valid they would have came up much earlier. with that said look at these vids below

    Obviously this are highlights so made to make him look good, but you can't watch this and honestly say he has no elite traits. some of these are elite throws many NFL QBs aren't making


    here is another good breakdown of 1 throw and how impressive it is


    as far as "floating" balls outside the numbers that's just insane. this video proves that complete wrong



    then there is the "mahomes like" off platform throws where I posted a video somewhere in this thread but it was off twitter and I can't find it

    also his mechanics are not ideal. with improved mechanics he'll have even more zip on his passes. he's not using his body ideally. there is room for improvement

    at the end of the day if you don't see it, you don't see it, but if you really don't see it, well i'm not going to trust your analysts because these videos are clear as day.

    as far as decision making goes it's funny you knock his but then someone posted a fields video saying how impressed they were how he keeps his eyes downfield and goes through progressions and in the same video

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    complety wide open WR on the top right and he never sees it or looks that way. he winds up taking off for a 10 yard run which is nice he has that ability but he just doesn't see the field well. it's sam 2.0 he has open WRs he just rarely sees if they aren't his 1st read.
     
  9. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Behold, the "tight window throw" that is really just an awful coverage play by the defensive back.



    Everyone went crazy in the Wilson thread when this happened as if it was some sort of ridiculously good throw, ignoring the coverage.
     
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  10. Borat

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    Another solid review by JT:

     
  11. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    Edit: nevermind Borat beat me to it.

    The part 6 video on Zach Wilson is out for the QB school fans...basically preaching about Zach Wilson's ability at the position and his mechanics.
     
  12. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    anyone can make a play and any great CB can still be 1-upped. covered is covered.
    and wilsons biggest issue wasn't the lack of ball skills it was the enormous amount of penalties. he only "covered" a WR because he grabbed them and pulled them in and got a flag for it. without holding he didn't cover well.
     
  13. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    because it is a perfect throw. it's a hip pocket throw to the inside when the DB had outside leverage.
     
  14. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    What coverage?
     
  15. jets_fan

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    Desperately holding out hope for this. Getting a blockbuster trade package for the #2 pick is the best way to go about rebuilding this franchise.
     
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  16. bicketybam

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    Well when you run out of shit to complain about you get this. Jesus.
     
  17. NoodleArm

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    I wouldn’t be opposed to this, but only if the Jets got fair compensation. Say four 1st and some change.
     
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  18. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    In all fairness, he probably knows himself well enough to know that if he tried to make that throw to the open guy it would have happened at a glacial pace and he would have been sacked before he got the throw off.
    #molassesrelease
     
  19. jets_fan

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    Agreed. I think that goes without saying. If there's not a massive trade package there, you stay put and take the best player (although I'm not at all sold on these QBs not named Lawrence). But if there's one of those types of trades that we often see for the top two picks out there somewhere, then I think you have to take it and use it to begin plugging the many holes this roster has.
     
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  20. Im not going round in circles w this same crap again.You have your opinion..i have mine.

    Bottom line is i dont appreciate you putting words in my mouth to further a narrative. It speaks to the credibility of your evaluation if we’re being honest.
     
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