Fields, Wilson, Jones, Trask, Lance (Volume 3)

Discussion in 'Draft' started by Brook!, Apr 8, 2021.

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Who would you pick at #2?

  1. Fields

    26.8%
  2. Wilson

    58.8%
  3. Other - Please Explain

    2.1%
  4. Trade Down

    12.4%
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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    but what you are describing is for Zach Wilson at pick number 2, not necessarily the Jets for what its worth
     
  2. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    will be interesting to see how Josh Allen looks in 2021. Last year, no fans, so every game was like a practice environment
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Only because Favre was involved in a serious car wreck. Not because of anything on the football field
     
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    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    True but we have plenty of evidence that says the Jets aren't trading the pick - not answering calls about it, the 49ers trading the farm for #3 overall instead of #2. Plus Wilson to Jets seems to be an open secret in the league. Would be a hell of a lot of smoke for there not to be fire.
     
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  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I dont disagree but on draft night is when the trade offers really get interesting
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Who had more help.
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    so in that author's opinion, Zach Wilson at BYU had just as much talent around him as Mac Jones at Alabama?
     
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  8. Just like this past college season! Ya know the only productive college season the messiah ever had. But nobody wants to acknowledge that.Nothing to see here folks just cognitive dissonance at its best
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Based on whatever analytical measure he used, that’s a yes.
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Ouch!

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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    I understand now thanks, I did know his name but I don't do basketball tbh at 5ft 6" it isn't the sport for me :rolleyes:
     
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    Do you agree with that?
     
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    not sure if this has been mentioned, but Wilson had a torn labrum in his non-throwing shoulder too

    https://universe.byu.edu/2019/06/18/zach-wilson-explains-shoulder-injuries-on-media-day/
     
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  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    well that's asinine.

    Mac Jones played with 3 possibly 4 1st round draft picks. Will BYU even have a receiver or running back drafted on day 2, rounds 2 or 3, or will we have to wait till rounds 4-7?
     
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    I actually just got of a meeting with charts like this! The line represents the predicted(essentially average) performance for a QB with a particular supporting cast score. The farther above the line the more the QB overperformed based on his supporting cast score, the farther under the line the more he underperformed. The question is how was the supporting cast score calculated? I believe it is a measure relative to the competition faced because there is no way BYU has a better supporting cast than Ohio State, but BYU might be a lot better than their competition than Ohio State is compared to their competition.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    definitely seems like some flawed analysis to me but thanks for reading it and explaining
     
  17. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I’m already on record saying that the talent gap between BYU and their 2020 COVID cupcake opponents was way wider than OSU and the rest of the Big 10 this year.
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    It’s asinine when you are looking at it one sided the way you are & not factoring the the talent relative to the competition they faced.
     
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    If you look at vertical distance from the line Fields and Wilson are just about equal.
     
  20. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    All metrics are flawed just as flawed as the proverbial “eye test”. Metrics are meant to support arguments not be definitive.
     
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