If Saleh busts JD Bust not if ZW does. We have a ton of picks in the next two years QB is the right choice at number 2. The draft capital you have gained from the #2 pick you would have to give up to get a QB that you state when the team is ready. JD will not be judged on one pick but he will be judged on how the Jets actually do.
I think he could bust the entire next 2 drafts and we'd not fire him. But his legacy will be the #2 pick.
We don't know what a promising QB will cost us next year, or where we'll be picking. And we certainly don't know where we would have been picking after a trade with Phily or whoever else, that we passed on. The Jets pick alone next season will likely be top 10. If everyone is rushing to get a QB this year then that means demand is high and thus the price is high. We aren't selling high, we are paying high prices.
I always love how the pronouncement of how JD is doing is so closely aligned with the posters own personal aims and ideas like they are anything other than just a fan on a forum. According to here 1 He is a cunt if he does or doesn't draft Wilson/Fields/ A N Other QB 2 He is a cunt for not selling the #2 spot and gaining more picks for the now and the future 3 He is a cunt if he doesn't draft my most favourite player in the draft. 4 He is a cunt for trading Sam Any of the above should mean he is fired on the spot and if not I am not going to be a Jet for the rest of my life. There are going to be a lot of unhappy Jets fans come draft night
Interesting, but that Albert Breer article was great insight. He said they liked Sam enough to continue with him had they not been in position to take the second QB off the board. Had we had, say, the eighth pick or so, we’d likely be looking at Sam but clearly they like the combination of upside in a rookie QB plus the cap savings of resetting the QB contract for five years more than they liked the upside of Sam. Even with being able to trade the pick for more picks. says a lot. They are clearly sold on SOMEONE. We don’t know who, but they made up their minds. I don’t think JD would necessarily get fired if the QB we pick flops, especially if he does well with the rest of the draft and we still have lots of picks next year. He wouldn’t be the first GM to miss on a QB. There have been many before him and there will be many after him. I think both were valid options...(1) keep Sam, trade the second pick for more picks, and build a solid core roster and either Sam succeeds in the new system and he moves forward or he fails and we take a QB next year as we have multiple picks to use in trade if needed, or (2) take the QB now, reset the cap, and start fresh with the new staff and new system, still having plenty of premium picks available to build a team around the rookie. everyone will have their own opinions on those options, but they are both valid and can both work. so JD chose option 2...everything we know about him says he builds consensus....he handpicked his coach despite having no previous connection with him...all these things indicate that the coaches and the GM will be aligned on the QB choice. I just don’t see anyway this is an Idzik/Rex combo where they were on opposite sides of the fence. I think we’re good here. I hope we make a good choice. I don’t know which QB would be better, but I hesitate on Fields even if only because Ohio State never produces NFL quality QBs, I hesitate on Mac Jones because neither does Alabama these days, and he’s not physically gifted like the other guys, so I’m down to Wilson, even though I too question the competition and COVID schedule. Still, if I were picking, I think Wilson would be the guy. Lance is a wildcard too though as he has the raw tools. I just hope we get that perfect storm of the right QB for the right coach unsder the right GM. We really haven’t had that since Parcells. Chad was good until the injuries were too much, but Herm was never a great coach... can’t wait till draft day
The QB cannot flop until 2022 or so. Even if they have a shaky year in 2021 they are still a rookie and lots of rookie QB's grow out of a bad rookie year. Peyton Manning led the NFL in interceptions with 28 in 1998, setting a rookie record that still stands to this day. Basically taking a QB on the #2 pick insulates JD from real damage until 2022 is in progress, which is after the 2022 draft.
I love how the Brits can still use the "C" word. You use that word in the states there better not be a female any where in ear shot.
Australians too. Jim Jefferies is like a non-stop cunt-spewer and the ladies are laughing as he does it. BTW, I think Jefferies is absolutely hysterical.
It has nothing to do with female parts, I have tried to explain this on here before, same as twat. I rarely use it in lady form tbh Think of it as a stronger word for dickhead lol cunt /kʌnt/ Learn to pronounce noun VULGAR SLANG a woman's genitals. an unpleasant or stupid person.
if my memory serves me right, the year when most all the fans were happy with the draft was when we selected Sam, so having a whole bunch of happy fans at draft night could be a bad omen.
I'm not sure, leading up to that draft on here was probably worse than this Wilson V Fields battle this time. We can only get behind what is drafted at the end of the day, if you don't then you weren't much of a fan, to begin with.
I think Darnold was #3 on the average fans wish list with Mayfield being #1 and Rosen #2. I started off on the Rosen bandwagon but with some doubts as to how much he really wanted it. I was split about 50/50 between him and Mayfield after the combine. Then he made a comment about a week before the draft that he'd try the NFL until they decided he sucked. It was an offhand comment probably made to show he wasn't full of himself but it struck me the wrong way and I wanted Mayfield after that. One of the many problems with Zach Wilson is that like Rosen he does not need the NFL. Family money will prop him no matter what happens. Manziel had the same problem. I'm wary of the silver spoon guys at this point. The NFL is a hard living for great pay but you have to be able to handle the hard part before you're worth anything. Also at QB being born on 3rd base is bad news in the locker room. NFL players are mostly from lower middle-class backgrounds and they can smell an entitled brat a mile away.
Come on Br4d! Did you not read the articles about Wilson working as a Door Dash delivery guy to earn money to pay for gas and food so he could travel to SoCal to work with his QB coach? Or that he drives around in an older compact car? Or how he lives in the film room and is always working to learn new things? What "spoiled, rich kid" does those things? You can be wary if you want, but that's just a false narrative, as equally unfounded as the one that says Justin Fields has lousy work habits.
If he fails he moves on to what is next without a lot of pain and turmoil. That's not what the average NFL player has going on.
NFL players - particularly QBs, even failed ones - have lots of opportunities that most normal don't have. That doesn't mean stupidity and lack of drive can't leave them floundering, but most have softer landings waiting for them. In any case, neither of these points erase what I said: he's shown by his behavior and actions that he isn't spoiled.
I hear you. But from what I read he is far from the entitled hot head. He worked two jobs and had a POS car he used for deliveries to make some money.
And how much did this affect Peyton Manning? You don't think he had a guaranteed living and lifestyle to fall back on? I'd bet Archie Manning had more money that Pop Wilson does.
There are about 100 examples just in the current NFL that go against this. Most good QB's come from affluent families.
