Jets Oline (PFF) ranked 29th last year with all the same guys coming back. Sadly, every single one of their guys ranked in the bottom third for their position. Fant can’t do the one thing you want your RT to do - run block. He ranked something like 60/62 in run blocking. If the Jets don’t invest / pick up a solid OL starter with pick 23 or 34, then Wilson better not be the starter this year.
I did not see the great guard/tackle from USC Vera-Tucker. I do not think he goes past 16 but if he is there at 23 the Jets will take him. I also believe Panthers at 8 will take the OT of their choice.
He’s not going to have a chance at Sewell after drafting Wilson, but an OLB at pick 23 would be dumb on JD part, he should pick an olineman, there are some excellent linemen that can and should be drafted in the 23rd spot. If JD starts trading back and leaving excellent players on the board to be selected by other teams I’m going to be pissed. This team needs talent, JD has to resist the urge to continue to add picks, he needs to add talent, plain and simple.
He's told us the type of players he wants several times over. Fant fits it to a T. would make him a hypocrite to go back on those words
We had 4 new starters. o-line needs to gel. we also had a ton of injuries. becton, fant, lewis, all missed time. they had no offseason really due to covid. we also have a new system. some things take time.
I don’t disagree with the concept that it takes time before an oline will gel but they overpaid for Fant + GVR and Lewis are subpar at guard. Becton for as much promise as he has shown, is a giant man who could always be dealing with injuries. Jury is still out there. McGovern played terribly early on and then pulled it together late. To me Becton goes down and we’re screwed right now... there’s just no real depth. Now if you take a guy like Tevin Jenkins at #23, you can start him at G over GVR... if Becton goes down, you move Jenkins to RT, Fant to LT...
It's valid. i'm not saying it isn't, but on gameday people will complain when the defense gets shredded. it's gonna take time to rebuild. we can't answer everything in 1 offseason. I think it makes sense getting a captain of the defense and offense with our 1st 2 picks. but mcgrone is a LBer i like a lot who can be had in the 3rd. leaving room for QB, O-line, and CB with the top 3 picks
if the plan is for Wilson to start at Qb, then the #1 priority is keeping him upright. To have another young Qb come and face the pressure Darnold did would be such a Jets move. No, grooming Wilson is the key and ALL eggs must be placed in that basket. Letting him get his ass kicked while improving the defense is a temporary move akin to trying to win a battle vs trying to win a war. We saw what Mahomes looked like without an oline in the SB. Rodgers had the #1 line Mahomes had the #6 line Josh Allen had the #4 line The current Jets line even if it improves massively, is still going to be ranked 20+... I want Wilson to succeed. Long term it means having a top 10 oline... the guys they have won’t get us there.
i'm not saying o-line isn't important. we all know it was. but TB won with defense. the bills has a great defense too. as did the chiefs. complete teams wins SBs. not teams really strong in 1 area and weak in others
Agree, but weakest area on the Jets is their 29th rated offensive line with all starters returning, not their defense with a lot of new faces. The Jets are also switching to a 4-3 which will help an emerging Q. Williams, returning CJ Mosely, should have an improved edge rusher in Lawson, improved depth with signing of Rankins and several young talented players in Maye, Hall + ? Not saying they don’t need more pieces on defense, just that the Oline is the most pressing need.
yeah we were 29th but your also missing all the factors 1) we had 4 new starters, 3 from other teams and 1 rookie. they didn't get an offseason program due to covid either. 2) injuries, the jets had 8 different o-line starting combinations in 2020 out of 16 games. on average every other game was a new unit. they never had time to gel those things make a big difference. having a cohesive unit on the o-line is important. they work as a group. then add in all the other offensive woes and the situation is worse then what the potential is
Understood + not disputing, I think where we disagree is talent level evaluation of the Jets offensive line. GVR is a subpar starter. Lewis has shown streaks of being able to start at a decent level but has been hurt (missing multiple games) in 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020. Fant is a finesse player who does not have the ideal bulk, run blocking ability to play RT. Becton was banged up a lot as a rookie and at times his play suffered due to injury and he also missed games, durability is the only question mark but still a big one. The depth just isn’t there unless a a guy like Cameron Clarke is ready to take another step/challenge for a starting spot. When do you think the Jets should be looking to draft an olineman? Or do you think they don’t need one? I hate our o-line personally and feel it’s the very worst unit on the team talent wise.
i takes time to build an o-line. we don't know if clark is good. edoga I think we know by now but he's been solid depth. probably not a starter though. I know the o-line needs work. but we have a lot of picks next year too and cap room so lots of flexibility to build a good roster
