Fields, Wilson, Jones, Trask, Lance (Volume 3)

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Who would you pick at #2?

  1. Fields

    26.8%
  2. Wilson

    58.8%
  3. Other - Please Explain

    2.1%
  4. Trade Down

    12.4%
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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    http://playlikeajet.com/2021/03/new...medical-concerns-about-zach-wilson-overblown/

    021 NEW YORK JETS DRAFT
    NEW YORK JETS DRAFT: ARE THE MEDICAL CONCERNS ABOUT ZACH WILSON OVERBLOWN?

    Zach Wilson sustained a tear of the labrum in his throwing shoulder while in high school in Draper, Utah. Tears of the labrum are most commonly caused by physical injury or trauma. In Zach’s case, the injury was breaking the fall with an out stretched arm. After failing conservative treatment, he underwent an arthroscopic repair of torn labrum.

    The shoulder is a ball (upper arm-humeral head) and socket (glenoid) held together by ligaments muscles and the labrum. The socket is like a plate with the ligaments connected to the outside of the plate by the labrum which is a thicken band of cartilage type tissue. If you think of the socket as a clock, most tears occur in the front of the shoulder from 12 to 6 o’clock or less. The symptoms are pain and sometimes the sensation of the shoulder slipping out of joint. [​IMG]

    Labral tears are most commonly diagnosed by an MRI. If conservative therapy fails, an arthroscopic repair of the labrum is recommended. The repair consists of reattaching the labrum and ligaments to the bone of the socket. Being a that it is a minimally invasive procedure damage to the healthy tissue is avoided compared to an open procedure of yesteryear. Since the labrum is slow healing to the bone, it is not recommended to stress the shoulder for 4 to 6 months while it completely heals.

    I have witnessed hundreds of professional and amateur athletes in my orthopedic practice after this surgery. Once healed the results are excellent with over 90% of athletes returning to their previous level of performance. Judging from Zach Wilson’s performance last year it appears that the injury/surgery had no ill effects on his throwing.

    As far as his hand surgery goes it is not clear whether it was a repair of a fracture (break) or a ligament. Both of these injuries usually take 6 weeks to heal and again showed no ill effects to his throwing.

    Since Zach Wilson had been struggling with this injury for several years, the surgery seems to have improved his throwing ability based on last year’s performance.

    Therefore, in my opinion I would not consider these injuries to be a medical red flag in the NFL Draft for Zach Wilson.

    Steven M. Stoller, MD FAAOS



     
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  2. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Congrats! I knew you could do it![​IMG]
     
  4. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    It proves his throwing motion is awful. It is a huge negative on Fields and in IMHO is what have teams worried.
     
  5. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    Level of competition is a concern but the concern is more about throws being complete that would not have because the level of corners. With that being said Fields was throwing to receivers that had much more separation that. Zach was.

    It is a concern but not one that gives an edge to Fields. They can both potentially be int machines in the NFL.
     
  6. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Does it though?

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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. COVID cupcakes are sweet AF. Ask Zach.

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  8. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Not yet. 20 more days.

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  9. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    You forgot to mention the Coastal Carolina game! Never let a good opportunity go to waste!
     
  10. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    The was the one savory snack for the season. Zach doesn’t like savory; he has a sweet tooth.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Now Fields was throwing to receivers that had more seperation.

    The overachievers that were picked to finish last in the second to worst conference in college football? Coastal was a nice story. They were an even nicer story because they made me a lot of money especially on that BYU game. I wouldn't make them out to be bigger than they are though.

    Wilson really lit them up.
     
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    Why to like one QB do you have disparage the other? I admit I got sucked into this a bit.

    Both QBs have talent both have probowl and bust potential. Has TJ said in my last post the better QB will be the one on the better team. I hoping Saleh, JD and Lefluer make us the better team.

    I think Zach fits the offense we want to run better but who really knows.

    What I like about both kids is what I hear from their coaches. Remember Mora talking about Rosen? I do not like what I am hearing about jones from Saban(Game manager).

    Both these kids have a chance to be great. All boils to them in the end.
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Because I don't have to like both as NFL players.

    I'm not sure why there's such a fuss over everyone needing to agree on both will be good or to be happy with either. I'll root for whomever we draft, but that doesn't mean I think every available option is the right selection.

    Hey man - I respect it. Do you and believe in your opinion. Mine just differs.

    I think a lot of these experts are scared of the herd mentality especially if they're wrong. The Mahomes situation has scared everyone. And it all falls into line with how McShay and Kiper have moved to evaluate every prospect taken in the first couple rounds.

    Evaluating to a ceiling and ignoring the floor.
     
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    I’m going to exclude Mel from that because he’s acknowledged that he’s factoring recent historical trends.
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I respect Mel a lot. He's done it at a high level for a long time and did it before the draft was hip. He's evaluated thousands of players.

    Unfortunately, he's not immune to what ESPN does to everyone eventually which is become a sensationalist that looks for headlines. Skip Bayless was a good reporter for years in the Dallas area and became a walking screaming douchebag who became whatever would get him the most viewership.

    Poor Mel. He catches a lot of flack for that now because it's gone to his head and he's usually wrong while he's competing to keep his job over McShay.
     
  17. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    He has gone to the home of soon to be retired QB's
     
  18. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    You have that one handy, Legler, always good to catch some wisdom from respected folks?
     
  19. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what the rules are about posting stuff from possibly competing sites. @Brook!
     
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  20. Brook!

    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    Go for it.
     
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