But you say you watch film, I told you specific things to look for wit fields, and it doesn't seem like you want too for whatever reason. a good evaluator will always go back if someone says they missed something.
Please show me a QB In this draft that doesn't have film of staring down their primary receiver. They all have done it. Multiple times throughout their college career. Even the wiz kid from Alabama does It. The Great Almighty Trevor Lawrence does it. I mean. It's okay to throw that critic out there, but, you are acting like this is what Fields did every play. It's not. The scheme was based around a 1-2 read system. No, not every play was made up of just 2 reads either. It was varied but It was primarily based on that concept. College tape is available to teams as well, they study film as well, If he was habitually flawed In this way, I feel like he would have way more INTs. All you have to do Is lock In on the primary, stop the run, easy enough, right? Anyway. I personally think you are over exaggerating the importance of It, but, to each their own.
I agree, but the difference between 3 and 6 is basically 2023 first round pick. For that price of 2023 1st, at #3 SF got insurance policy vs #6, and after watching Shanahan's reaction during Jones' pro day, looks like it's a good thing they did.
“Alarming” is relative. Also widespread concern in the group think NFL community means shit to me to use your language. There was “widespread” concern about Mahomes coming from the Spread. There was “widespread” concern about Watson ball velocity. There was “widespread” concern about Allen’s accuracy. Forgive me if I’m not “alarmed” as you are.
So I have a question for everyone who clearly understands how to spot a quarterback going through their reads correctly and match it to the mind of what the quarterback is doing on the play and what his progression should be. Exactly how many plays was Peyton Manning getting to his third read here? I counted two of what thirty+ plays? One was a rollout where he only realistically had two receivers in the picture. Brady became the player he is dinking and dunking his first to second read based on defensive alignment. NFL quarterbacks aren't getting to third or fourth options a ton. If they are, they are certainly going to be under pressure by the time they get there. That's not to say that Fields doesn't need to learn to use his eyes better and manipulate the defense with his shoulders. But it's not like it's always extremely easy to understand what the player is processing on the play. If you turn your shoulders to either the front or back side, you're usually looking at two receivers and depending what the play is, your checkdown will be your third read. He needs to do a better job getting to the checkdown when it's there and I was impressed to see him do so versus Clemson. The early check downs to Sermon opened up the field.
lol FWIW I still like fields. all prospects have negatives. I think he'll be good maybe even better then wilson. predictions like that are impossible to make for sure. But on film wilson's game is a lot stronger.
Oh that pesky gray matter between the ears. The single most important quality of a QB but impossible to measure directly. So we're forced to study hours of game film, looking for the slightest hint of what's going on in there. When a QB faces weaker competition, it robs him (and us) of seeing what he's REALLY made of. Hitting the open WR is a good thing, even if that open WR is his first read. Maybe he 'can' scan the field and hit his 3rd read. He just never had to. But maybe he can't. So when we study film looking for those opportunities we don't find many when Team A is always better than Team B. His #1 is almost always open, and he hits him. Same with Mac Jones throwing to Devonte Smith. Smith is always open. Mac hits him. Next play. And that's why when a QB routinely faces weaker comp, it's pointed out by nay-sayers. "ya, he won games, but he didn't play anyone". Same thing happened right here when Satan Darnold finished off his 2019 campaign 6-2. "Meaningless...we had an easy 2nd half!!!". Same thing applies when evaluating college QBs. This is why we like to see QBs 'do it' against top competition. They can't throw to their first reads every play. They get sacked. Their 1st and 2nd reads are dlb covered. Can he hit his 3rd read? Under pressure? Because it's only in these (very) few moments we get to see what's going on between the ears, and if he has what it takes in the NFL. Otherwise, you're just rolling the dice. He probably can, but maybe he can't.
outside of straight line speed he literally does everything better then fields. Not sure how you can say that
The difference between 3 and 6 is not one 2023 1sts but three 2023 1st round picks as a 2023 pick is devalued 2 rounds and worth the equivalent of a 2021 3rd round pick.
I still don't really understand why, a first is a first to me, it will be a first when they come to use it.
Probably all true, but one thing Fields does better than Wilson is he can take a brutal hit and keep on ticking, a requirement for any qb playing under center for the NY jets. I'm not sure Zack Wilson would even be alive if he took some of the shots Fields took.
It is like the present value of money. Money in hand today is worth more than the same amount in 2 years. I agree with you that overtime taking picks from later years is good value and a net gain. The problem many coaches and GMs have is this is a win now league not a win in two years league. Investing in future picks might be investing in your the success of the guy who takes your job. Belichick was able to make gains by trading for future picks but he had the luxury of job security that most coaches do not have.
