I feel like he’d be a good QB coach someday like John Beck. His mind/heart wrote checks that his ability could never cash.
I don’t think Darnold lacks on the football IQ dept, I think he has been David Carr’d, which is bound to happen after a season with the worst OL in the game, worst weapons in the game and worst coaching in the game.
Some guys a turnover proned whether they have high football IQ (however that’s measured) or not. Sam is not just turnover proned, he has a hero ball complex, bad feet & plays like he got a Mahomes arm when he doesn’t. That’s a lot of issues to start before we add in poor coaching & surrounding talent.
So you really, seriously, are asking if anyone who supports Wilson, if they believe he has any flaws? Because MOST of those here who like Wilson have consistently acknowledged flaws in him. Whereas MOST of those who like Fields have denied any shortcomings. I note you're an exception to that last statement, but most others have adopted a "Fields has no real flaws" stance. And this has been called out before...it's annoying. I get that some like Fields, some like Wilson, some like Lance, but ALL these QBs have flaws. Moreover, there is no sure way to know if their game will translate to the NFL, or more specifically, to the team/system they'll be asked to play. Put any of these guys in the wrong system and they'll probably fail - look at what happened to Darnold. Getting back to Wilson's flaws, until I saw that O'Sullivan tape, and then read your follow up on how you think he does a lot of pre-snap decisions that make it look like he's reading the field while the play unfolds, I didn't see that aspect. And that does diminish my previous belief that he's really good at "processing" the action as it unfolds, but at the same time, it underscores that he IS capable of reading a defense pre-snap and making sound decisions. Does he do that ALL the time? Obviously not, but look at his overall body of work as you say, he must be doing it right a lot of the time. So, yeah, Wilson does have some flaws. It would be nice to hear some of the Fields Fan Bois acknowledge the same for Justin.
I’m late to the party so don’t punish me for the sins of my pro Fields predecessors. I’m literally asking any who cares to share what they think Wilson’s flaws are if they exist.
There was one play where he hit a slant to the left on a difficult throw, and TJ pointed out that the ball should have been released a little earlier to make it easy. He was also surprised Zach went from 1 to 2, then quickly back to one and lost fraction of a second to make a throw unnecessarily difficult. Legler's theory is I think why he did that. The 2nd read was actually the first one, and he only looked at the slant route to hold off safety, but then when he actually saw the guy was wide open he immediately looked back and threw a ball for a completion. That's the theory anyway. It's at 11:45 of TJ's video. Another cool thing I noticed on 26:25 of that video. Zach missed a wide open short pass by 3 yards turned to the right. I mean, a terrible throw to the point where TJ says he is unfamiliar with this type of miss, not expecting this from top pick. Jenkins, who is now a coach, immediately points out to his feet, inseam footwork issue, pointing the wrong way. He then finds another video where Zach had footwork right and hits that same exact pass. Says someone needs to point this out to him to make sure he never makes this mistake again. Difference between a former QB and a former QB/ QB coach. Wilson definitely has a lot of things to address. But they don't appear to be anything that can't be coached given the ability he demonstrated last season.
I did exclude you from my "indictment" of the pro-Fields Fan Bois. As to his flaws, I've agreed that his past injuries and somewhat "smaller" build might be concerns. Also, the weaker schedule might be a concern, however, plenty of great QBs played weak schedules and succeeded in the NFL. There is something to be said for the "positive reinforcement" you get from being a "big fish in a small pond", that when you graduate to the bigger pond you've already come to believe in yourself. Living and working in NY I would see people transfer in from small towns and cities, and arrive with such a strong, positive attitude that they succeeded, while people who grew up in the Negative Capital of the World struggled with self-doubt even though they had to compete against tougher odds. Maybe another way of looking at it is: before you can do something against the best, you have to first do it against somebody successfully, and playing/working in a less competitive setting allows for this, whereas trying to get that experience when there's a whole bunch of other people vying for that experience, often prevents you from getting it at all. Another "flaw" is the assumption that Zach is doing all these post snap reads so quickly, when maybe he isn't, or isn't sometimes/all the time. I put this in quotes because I'm not sure it's a shortcoming of Zach's, or on the part of those who said he's great at "processing" (which I was guilty of). I think if you watch him play you can see that he makes good decisions, even if they aren't always the "perfect" ones. I'm open to assessing any other "flaws", but would appreciate that same openness from supporters of other QBs.
