That's the other point that I feel like people are glossing over. Fields strength is in the intermediate passing game which is a staple of just about every NFL offense. I feel as if a lot of people that support other prospects are going out of their way to put down Fields in order to build up their favorites. It's not necessary. It's ok to just like your guy better. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
I got a question for Wilson super fans, is there any apprehension at all that he might be similar to Darnold?
It's also more confirmation that NFL HCs are not satisfied with just "decent" or pretty good QBs. They want elite QBs, because they know that gives them the best chance to win. I hope that all you who claimed that this was not a good QB draft class, and that none of them except Lawrence was worthy of the #2 pick, or that we don't need an elite QB, we can just take a "decent" or pretty good QB and be fine. If you think that way, you need to change your thinking, because it's not in tune with reality, with how NFL GMs and HCs operate. That is being made crystal clear this offseason.
None whatsoever. The only things those two have in common are that they're both white, both play QB, both are supposedly nice people, and both can make off-platform throws that many other QBs can't make. It ends there.Darnold can only dream of being in the same universe as Wilson.
True, but a feature of Shanahan's offense and what Saleh and LaFleur are receivers who excel in YAC. If it's true that that's not what Fields does/enables his receivers to do, then he's not a good fit. He would be a great fit in other offensive systems, but not the one the Jets are installing.
If this is true, then by your own words, Fields isn't an ideal fit for the Shanahan system, and maybe not a good fit at all, because the routes used and the types of receivers they seek are those that excel at YAC.
I do see similarities both in their ability to throw off-platform and their habit of doing it at some times when it’s not entirely necessary. I think the big difference is that Wilson is significantly more consistent in his intermediate-deep accuracy. I knew deep accuracy was a problem for Darnold coming out of college but I severely underestimated how big of an impact it would have on him as a pro. His inability to threaten a defense deep (paired with protection issues) has led teams to bring pressure at a very high rate and dare him to punish them over the top, which he just hasn’t done. I do have some degree of faith that Wilson is accurate enough down the field to keep defenses honest and avoid this, it’s probably his most appealing trait to me as an upgrade from Sam.
I didn't like him at first. I liked Mayfield. I wanted Mayfield. I liked Allen better than most. I didn't like Rosen at all. I didn't like Jackson, either. He had a strong arm, but wasn't that accurate, and ran too much, and I thought he'd get killed in the NFL. Most of the board liked Sam, and I eventually came around where he was my #2 choice I ranked them Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, I believe.
So he’s doomed to play in system that requires him to throw downfield for the rest of his career? Josh played in an offense that had nothing but intermediate & deep throws in college & was dragged for his alleged lack of short throw accuracy. Now he’s a MVP candidate killing teams with crossing patterns. Part of evaluating is projecting based on talent in front of you. Remember when Air Raid Mahomes wasn’t a good fit for the WCO we were running then he gets drafted by the present king of the WCO Andy Reid?
No, I don't see them as close other than being white and from the west coast. Darnold, great long throw, spotty accuracy, not as quick release, horrible footwork. Darnold make simple play look so complicated. Wilson, is more raw in term of experience but he takes way more care of the football and he is way better at recognizing time & space. He is always great at moving inside the pocket and recognizing upcoming pressure. I think Wilson is more similar to Mayfield than Darnold if we go with 2018 QBs.
He was never really in my "graces." I rooted for him because that's what was best for the Jets, but I never really liked or believed in him.
The prospect. Go watch his draft tape. It is Jekyl and Dr. Hyde. Some great plays/games but some abymisal bonehead decisions and unable to react to upcoming blitz. He was a turnover machine out there. I did my homework, I looked up at every QBs that failed and succeeded the past few years. From Mahomes, Darnold, Herbert, Murray, Allen, Watson. Wilson is way ahead of the QB that busted, although is lack of experience is worrisome. I think he is also a way smarter QB than given credit. He can manipulate the defense with his eyes and movement. He also throw his receivers open and he is accurate on every throw in the book.
Lack of experience? He started for 3 years in college. That's more than Fields, Lance, and Jones, and almost more than all three of them put together.
Not in the least. In what way do you think he's similar? Wilson is more accurate, has better mechanics, moves in and out of the pocket better. If Wilson came out in 2018, I would've put him at the top of that class.
I think that's way overrated. Tons of players have played at small colleges and been solid pros, great players, stars, and HOFers. If you can throw dimes into small windows, you can do it at any level. He can't help the level of his competition. The level of his own team/talent wasn't that great, either. He made them a lot better.
