Of all the positions I've studied and concluded over the years. Obviously my amateur scouting. QB position is the position I've been most wrong about. So, I don't even trust myself at the position. That being said.. I gave watched a lot of QBs that have came out of OSU. Troy Smith was the only one I ever felt could be a legit QB since I've watched OSU football. I think Smith was ahead of his time and would've had a much better chance in today's NFL. Fields is way better than him. He Is easily the best "pro" caliber QB I've seen. Ever. Come out of OSU. I think the flaws he has aren't because of him. I think it's the system and coaching that has hurt him. First read, pre/post snap options, progressions, I don't think he was coached up by NFL standards In those ways. Which doesn't surprise me because OSU has NEVER been about having a pro style passing game. This was seen a little bit because of the quality of Fields as a QB. Not much though. He was In a system that relief primarily on a strong running scheme between RB and QB. This has always been the OSU way. It's never been about finding that pro style QB to run this scheme. Which isn't extremely different from an Uber Myer offense. OSU has always needed an athlete at QB. Not a traditional QB. Times are hopefully changing In that way, it's not there yet though.
At the end of it. I don't care who that QB Is, as long as we finally got big and don't miss big. The who isn't as important as the result. At all. I'll gladly get behind any QB In this draft. As long as they are the right one for us. A legit FQB. All I care about In the end.
In comparison to NDSU? That's what we're talking about. BYU is in no way a small school compared to them.
You answered your own question. It has everything to do with scheme and tradition of this program. OSU has never had a high caliber, pro style QB, of traditional sense. Fields has been the closest thing to that but even he wasn't originally recruited by OSU. SEC QBs are more known for the pro style capabilities for a reason. OSU for decades have really just looked for athletes, rather than quality pro style QBs. You don't need to work as hard to run a dominate offense at the collegiate level when you don't rely on needing a high caliber pro style recruit to run the offense effectively. That's been OSUs secret recipe for decades and as much as I hope Fields changed that a little moving forward (we did recruit a solid pro style QB recently) I doubt that It will change things systematically too much. I hope that it does though. I really do. Fields is the best projected pro based QB from OSU ever. I'm excited to see what he can do with an actual pro style coaching staff working with him.
Neither of them are a big school. Even In comparison. BYU played Coastal Carolina and lost. I mean. It doesn't matter at the end of the day. Neither school is a big time school. I feel like NDSU could at least hang with Big 10 competition. I didn't feel that way at all about BYU. Anyway. My fault. I didn't read the entire exchange there.
He looks the part, has a big arm and plays on a undefeated team... still he’s thrown under 250 yards in 16 of the last 17 games in college... He only threw over 300 yards - 1 time in college. He does throw and run for a lot of td’s, but it’s against inferior competition... how that translates to the NFL, I don’t know... He’s not the talent that Josh Allen was, that’s for sure... not the same arm, size + but perhaps a similar athlete but maybe a more raw thrower.
Very accurate. It's always been easier to be consistent with the scheme they run over the decades because it's easier to find athletes out of high school than pro style potential at the QB position. Why use a pro style scheme that is reliant on a pro style QB to run It effectively? When you can insert your best athlete into a very easy run based scheme that can play's pitch and catch at best within that offense. You don't need a QB with football IQ. Just an athlete that can remember the same handful of tricks every game. Run heavy, sets up the easiest passes with a very vanillas route tree. This was the first year. In my lifetime of watching OSU where I actually seen glimpses of a pro style offense. Even that was rare though. I think you may have seen a handful of pro style concepts in the playoffs? Maybe a few more than that. Not much though. Fields Is capable but that's not what OSU does overall. I think that when Fields gets into a pro style offense, with pro style coaches, he's going to be fantastic. I've been wrong before though. We will see.
Not my personal observation the pundits state that. My personal one is to stay away from Ohio State players. It has not been good for the Jets. But my feeling is Douglas will pick that dude because he's been eerily quiet and we are what less than a month away. I'm sure a lot of it is covid them not being able to bring these guys in and test everything out.
Okay, nice! So he is after Wilson. Hopefully by the end of that day Douglas will know his plan. He probably does already, but nothing wrong with confirming it.
None. That's the point and significant difference between those QBs and Fields. Fields wasn't recruited by OSU either. He has all the things you look for In today's NFL QB.
If we're going to use this logic, the Bills shouldn't have taken a QB out of Wyoming, the Chargers shouldn't have taken a QB out of Oregon, and the Texans shouldn't have taken a QB out of Clemson. A QB should be judged based on his skill set, not the school he plays for.
I can't use that logic. A school doesn't make a player. I don't get how people get locked into that trapped mentality.
Ok, we'll revisit this in a few years. What does he wasn't recruited by OSU mean? Did he not play for OSU? I'm pretty sure I saw him and OSU get destroyed by Alabama.
It means he wasn't just another athlete they put at the position. He was originally recruited for a more traditional QB role. Ultimately going with Georgia. With LSU and Florida being heavily considered as well. He was an SEC QB who transferred to OSU. Rare circumstances that benefitted OSU. He's not the typical QB recruit that OSU goes for. He's different. That's the point. The past of OSU doesn't mean a thing.
I just don't want that risk. We have enough problems and history against us. We need to try something different.
