La Canfora says Jets are staying at #2

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  1. Get me the Damn Ball

    Get me the Damn Ball Well-Known Member

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    I've liked Lance from Day 1. He did miss some throws at his pro day but some of his throws were truly special and unteachable. If we don't get Watson, then I'm all about Trey Lance at #2
     
  2. jilozzo

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    there were certainly plenty of bushes to hide in at the ole hofstra. LOL
     
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  3. SoylentGreen

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    Trey Lance has talent, but was not asked to throw in college. Most games it was 15 or less passes. Most games he was throwing between 150-200 yards. He also played in a one read offense, throw to planned open man or take off running.

    He also played 1 game last year so is lacking reps...

    He will be a project, so I don’t want him anywhere in top 15...
     
  4. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    I wish this report was from Schefter or Rapoport. Then I would believe it. La Canfora is too all over the place. Sometimes he is right, sometimes he is way off.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

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    I agree. I was always surprised that teams supposedly still liked Sam so much, and Adam Schefter saying that teams would give up a 1st round pick or 2nd round pick for him. That never made sense to me, except that I know some Coach's egos think they can fix anything/anyone.

    Still, while I like the fact that JD isn't like Mac and just wildly overpays for FAs, I think he's too tight and too conservative. He has a ton of cap space, a bunch of dead money will be cleared off the cap following this season, and has no cap worries for the foreseeable future. He passed up the following players at reasonable contracts: Curtis Samuel 3 years $34.5 million ($11.5 million avg per season), Jayon Brown 1 year $5.25 million, Gerald Everett 1 year $6 million, Haason Reddick 1 year $8 million, Tyus Bowser 4 years $22 million ($5 million avg per season), Kevin Zeitler 3 years $22.5 million ($7.5 million average per season), Gabe Jackson a 3rd round pick, and I'm sure there are more. I sure hope that he's right with the decisions he is making. Because we still have a ton of cap space and holes. There's middle ground between being a reckless spendthrift and a bargain hunter.
     
  6. NCJetsfan

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    The best thing in this situation IS taking Wilson at #2. ;):p
     
  7. REVISion

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    Lance didn't have an awful pro day but it wasn't great either. More misses than you'd like to see, poor ball placement at times. He definitely has a strong arm and is apparently very smart.

    I don't get the hype behind him though to be honest. He's not as good an athlete as everyone makes him out to be. He's pretty much ideal size but on the slower end (4.9 out of high school). Fields is a far better athlete and honestly Wilson might be too (rumored to run a 4.5-4.6).

    Josh Allen has made everyone forget that the big armed QB's out of smaller schools almost always bust in the NFL, and even Josh Allen had some serious growing pains. He was downright bad his first two seasons and made a miraculous, unprecedented improvement last season. I heard an interview from a former GM that said Josh Allen is going to get a lot of GM's fired for thinking they can replicate his success drafting a small school "has all the tools" guy.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Isn't Zach Wilson a small school, "has all the tools guy" though?
     
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  9. Br4d

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    BYU is not a small school for QB's.

    Lots of BYU QB's have gotten drafted and busted in the NFL. This is because BYU has run a wide-open offense for decades and the numbers always look great coming out of there. Then the guy hits the NFL and faces real defenses and winds up getting scrubbed by them.

    Steve Young is the guy who became a great NFL QB and he did it by going into the most successful NFL passing scheme in history and inheriting all the other pieces that had been put in place.
     
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    However, the only good team they played in their revamped COVID season last year is Coastal Carolina, who they lost to.

    In their 6 game season they had wins over powerhouses like USF, North Alabama, and Western Kentucky.

    To put this in perspective, a year before when playing their normal schedule Wilson struggled. In a revamped weakened schedule, he shined.

    Its a red flag.
     
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  11. boozer32

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    We get it right by not taking Fields. He is the last QB I would take. If Wilson isn't
     
  12. boozer32

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    We get it right by not taking Fileds. He cannot run this offense the Jets are installing. If Wilson isn't the pick for Douglas and no one knows what this guy is doing. I would trade down not too far get a few more picks and take Mac Jones. You want a champion, a guy that can make all the throws. The extra picks build up the offensive line around him and play ball. All the things the Jets should have done for Sam. Instead, they gave him no line, no weapons, and then wonder why the kid couldn't win.
     
  13. REVISion

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    I wouldn't call BYU a small school and I think they have relatively less of a talent advantage over their opponents than NDSU. All the film I watched of Lance he was throwing to receivers that had 5 yards of separation on the nearest defender, Wilson throws guys open a lot. Wilson is more accurate and has a quicker release. Lance has a stronger arm.
     
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  14. GasedAndConfused

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    I think that's JD plans. darnold wasn't his guy. he'll look to trade darnold for picks and draft his QB. Seems like wilson is his guy. he does look best on film of all the QBs in this draft
     
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  15. JetsNation06

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    Get a haul for the #2 and another run with Sam. I'm all for it.
     
  16. Jets-N-Terps

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    I wish my wife did more ballworship

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  17. SoylentGreen

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    Wilson was coming back from shoulder surgery in 2019, coaches said he didn’t have the same velocity, couldn’t make all the throws like in 2018 and 2020.

    People like to point to the loss to coastal carolina as a bad game but - first play of the game was a 90 yard td that got called back. The 1 int he had was a hail mary at the end of the 1st half and at the end of the 4th he drove them down the field with no time left and threw what would have been the game winning TD except his WR fell 6” short of the goal line.
     
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  18. IIMeanDeanII

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    I stopped reading after you said Fields isn't capable of running the Shannahan offense.
     
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  19. IIMeanDeanII

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    BYU is a small school In comparison, and they had far and away more talent than everyone on their schedule. Wasn't even close.
     
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