No, we are not. We still have a full draft this yr, free agents and 2 1st next. Do you see the value QBs have in this league. 35-40 million dollar contracts. We have the worst qb in the league and people are still thinking we could get a 1 for him. Drafting a potential stud at 2, even if he tanks holds value early in his career. Plus there is the upside you have a stud qb under rookie contract. I am 85 % certain we draft a qb @ 2
It WILL be a disaster! One doesn't draft a QB for one season, so that's a ridiculous comment to make. I swear it's amazing how ignorant some of you are! It can take rookie QBs a year or two to adjust to the NFL and build chemistry and timing with their offensive line and receivers. We have the #2 pick and don't have to burn extra draft picks to move up to draft a QB. For the umpteenth time, QB is the most important position in the NFL, and the hardest to get. It's much easier to get the rest of the roster than it is the QB. Some of you talk like QBs grow on trees, and we can just trade up for a QB any time we please. That's ignorant and wrong. I swear some of you talk like you've never watched the NFL and know nothing about the NFL! Hopefully, everyone wants to be competitive as soon as possible. Well, the sooner we get our new QB the better, and the sooner we'll be competitive. You couldn't be more wrong. When you get a chance to draft a potential FQB, you run to the podium and take him. You don't draft other positions first. The only teams that do that are teams that don't have a shot at a FQB, and have no other choice but build their team first. We have a golden opportunity to get a FQB, and you want to pass on it to draft position players. ROFLMAO!!! It makes zero sense to not get our QB this year so the offense can be built around him and what he does well. This is the time to get a new QB, not only from the perspective of we have a new HC and OC and the timing is right so the offense can be built around what he does well, but also because this is a great class for QBs, and next year's is mediocre, and we'd have to trade up, if we could even find a team willing to trade down. Wilson most certainly DOES check all the boxes. I suppose that you were one of those who thought Mahomes didn't check all the boxes, either. IF our chances of drafting a QB this year are only 1 in 3, which I doubt and totally disagree with, it's because we likely will trade for Deshaun Watson rather than drafting a QB.
Of course. That doesn't mean you don't try though. We're equally screwed if we bring back Darnold given how bad he's been. Honestly with how much the rules favor passing and how important QB's are you basically should just keep taking them until you have a good one. We're in a great spot to pick one that has a decent chance of working out this year. It would be really foolish to pass that up. I can't stress how rare it is to have the #2 overall pick. As Colorado pointed out we've picked this high 3 times in the last 30 years, and we've been a pretty bad team during the vast majority of that time.
For those of you that don’t want to draft a QB this year and leverage building the team with more picks instead I offer this point of view. To do so, it implies to me that JD and the coaching staff don’t see any of them as better candidates to lead this team in the future than Sam. Period. Because if they think otherwise, they would be making a monumental mistake not striking now, while they have top choice. We might not have this chance again. So if they pass, it’s a declaration that they are sticking with Sam for the long run. I just don’t quite see that as an option. Even if we keep Sam this year, we must pick and develop our future QB starting now. Is anyone here of the opinion that none of them are better than Sam? Am I looking at this wrong?
Or they don't think any of the candidates are worth the 2nd overall pick. That the players chances of actually being great are very low. Which makes a lot of since when you look at Wilson and his less than 1 year of tape, injure history, and such. Fields is a little better but maybe they also don't want to use the 2nd on him. It doesn't mean they are as bad as Sam, though I think Sam could still be a legit starter, just needs a change of scenery maybe. That said as stated before if we fail on a qb it sets us back years. Because any gm will give their high qb pick 3+ years. So if he sucks get ready for 3 bad years. So if they don't think these are sure fire picks they better pass on them.
You really are ruthless. lololol I guess his QB choice next year is Fitzmagic? Or maybe Daniel Jones when the Giants release his lame ass. Just a suggestion but maybe before reading this board, you might consider smoking a huge amount of herb to calm yourself down.
We're not keeping Sam. I mean if we were keeping Sam, why would JD even look at Trey Lance. That to me says we do not believe in Sam Darnold.
You just going to ignore the many talent evaluators who are extremely high on Wilson? Guys who've accurately predicted QB prospect success in the recent past? Guys who certainly know more about being a good QB than any of us? Regarding surefire picks - almost no prospects ever were surefire picks. Manning, Luck and possibly Lawrence are the only ones I can think of. If you wait for a surefire pick you'll go a decade+ without getting a QB.
If you need a QB you take a QB; waiting gets you Mac passing on two elite QB’s. The only question is does JD think he needs a QB. If he does he’s picking one. And if he misses on him he’ll try again.
The reality is JD doesn't NEED a QB. He can sell Sam for one more year very easily because of Gase/Tannehill effect. You will swallow it if you have to come preseason. Next, JD doesn't have to be forced into drafting Wilson at #2 if: He believes two or more available QBs (Fields, Lance, or MacJones) could eventually be a FQB if and only if properly developed In the above scenario, JD can still think Wilson is a great prospect, but trade back to get more capital + offensive weapon, draft another QB prospect with high/FQB ceiling and still keep Darnold for one last year. Assuming Darnold figures it out, This would put us in the best case scenario next year as we'll be able to either trade Darnold or the now 2nd year QB for a buttload of picks to add to our two 1st draft picks I'd put my money on JD passes on Wilson simply due the above – because a Lance/Jones/Fields can still be had, and their ceiling is on par with Wilson. Also Wilson's size will be a concern.
Last year was the beginning. The foundation has already been set. Build thru the trenches: -An OL takes time to gel. It’s 5 huge guys acting as1 unit. That’s why some of the guys were looking much better by the end of the year. 2020 was the 1st year out RT was a starter, he’ll only get better. He played Basketball collegiately so I think his lateral movement abilities will be well received in the LaFleur offense. -Even though Q wasn’t one of JDs, Salah probably studied the hell out of him as a potential #2 pic a couple years ago. -Trenches Find draft bargains: We took potentially the best cb in the class who fell bc of a serious injury. He missed some of last year recovering but he’ll be 100% this year day 1. Draft starters: We got WR,S,CB,OT,RB as starters this year Thru last years draft. So far JD has done everything right. I have no reason to think the man doubts his ability to build a team. I think JD is drafting a QB and I think JD thinks playoffs are a possibility.
Most of those evaluators also said Sam was the top Qb in the draft, that Johnny Manziel would be good. RG3 was the real deal. They pushed Tannehill to the top. And they had a bigger sample size on those guys... Wilson doesn't even have a full year. Again if they don't like the prospect they pass.
This is not how it works. You only draft a player if you like and believe in that player. Over drafting or taking a player cause your told he's good is what we were doing before Douglas.
Nothing I said is even remotely relevant to your retort. I never intimated JD would draft a QB he didn’t like.
