Because it became a distraction and bulletin board material for other teams when you're dancing on their logo. It's slightly overblown in the sense that if he goes to a team with an established culture it won't have too much of an effect. I don't think it'd be a good thing to infuse into a young locker room with a rookie head coach and coaching staff. Marshall was way more of a physic specimen of a receiver than Robinson is in terms of size and physicality. Marshall could easily out leap and out compete defensive backs for the ball. Robinson is talented but he relies more on quickness in and out of his breaks than he does playing Marshall's style of bully ball. The receiver cliff is tough to project because it comes on fast and there's no recovering from it. He's not quite there yet but it makes sense to shoot for younger FA targets (Godwin/Samuel) that you can more easily predict 4ish years out of before they're 30.
I didn't see his social media post but I agree with you about Robinson. I don't want Ju Ju. I think he's a little overrated. Much better out there.
I'm not saying we should draft 2 guards, but there are a bunch of really good ones projected at 23 & 34. But, Guard is not a position I study closely when watching college football. I would like to sign a guard like Thuney and draft one. One thing we all have to keep in mind is that there will be a tremendous competition for these players. If we don't get Thuney, who is the next best guard to sign? I don't want someone who is old and crippled like we usually get. lol
Before we deplete our cap on pricey FAs, keep in mind we are looking at AT LEAST a 2 year team-building effort, primarily through the draft. It makes no sense to drop $20m/yr on a top WR so early in our rebuild. That's $40m of cap space....pooof....gone. I think JD would rather pick up 3 or 4 good (and much younger) players he can plug in several spots. Younger guys who will be part of the rebuild and still be here in 2-3 years when things are really looking up. That $40m will go a long ways on stocking up our backup players too. God knows we need them. Thuney on the other hand makes more sense. WHOEVER is the QB moving forward NEEDS better protection from day 1, just to see what we have under center. We really don't want our QB running for his life while we're trying to install a new offense and evaluate a rookie QB (or even Sam). So on some levels, Thuney makes sense. JD has said in the past he uses FA to give him maximum flexibility in the draft. Signing Thuney now will give JD that flexibility. If a good guard is there, fine, draft him. If not, that's ok too, draft a good WR instead. Stuff like that. He can draft good players who fall to him without reaching, for example, for a guard. I would rather DRAFT our skill players so they're cheap for the first 4-5 years, and can grow along with our QB.
I think the only other top quality OG in FA aside from Thuney is Brandon Scherff, and he is older and oft-injured. I have zero interest in him. There is an excellent C in GB's Corey Linsley, and two excellent RTs in Daryl Williams who is 29, and Taylor Moton, who is 27. We'll have to seriously overpay to get Thuney in all likelihood.
That's it on the OG front? Wow, didn't realize it was that depleted. I too have no interest in Scherff. However, I do want Linsley. Been keeping an eye on him since we need a good OC. He can be a good mentor if we draft an OG. I'll take Linsley OC, Moton RT, and if not Thuney then draft an OG. That's a pretty good O-Line we could roll with for this season. But I do think this draft has a lot of talent in the first 3 rounds that will cause some really good players to fall. So many different ways we can go this offseason. But no matter who the QB is, I think we need to start hitting on a bunch of draft picks. If not, no matter who our QB is we will be mediocre. Have to find those diamonds in the rough as all great GMs do.
You must have missed the bit where he said it isn't about the money but wanting a ring. He won't be at the Jets anytime soon and then and only then if we trade for Watson.
Some players actually value winning more than the top offer. There have been numerous instances where the Jets offered the most money and a player chose a different team because their chances of winning were better. And also numerous instances when the Jets were the top offer and the player takes it and ends up playing like shit.
Every player wants a ring. The way the season shakes out and injuries signing with any team does not guarantee it. How many years have the Jets franchise been chasing that elusive goal?
Thuney will be the #1 free agent target. They will go as high as they need to get him. He's 28 and OL's play as long as any position in the NFL. Hope they have a deal in place already.
That's a point that I'm sure every free agent the Jets court has weighed when they decide to sign with another team for less money.
Of course, they all want a ring but you said he would sign for the $$$$ I only said that he wants to challenge and highly unlikely he wants to babysit another rookie, on the back of Bortles and then Trubisky, I am sure he is already rich enough but savvy enough to know that a team that is challenging will stay pay him a nice wage, maybe not as high as a desperate team like the Jets would have coughed up under, hmm let's say a GM like Mac.
Thuney/Robinson probably have a range of money they want to be in, and beyond that they want to go to a contender. Robinson may want to be in the $20-$22 range. If he had to choose between the Chiefs at $20 or the Jets at $22.....he'll look good in red. And look even better catching balls from Mahomes! But then again he'd look good in green catching balls from Deshawn Watson too, so.... ...but i'd be shocked if JD abandons his build thru the draft mantra to sign a FA as big and expensive as Robinson this early in our rebuild. I can more easily see JD pushing as much cap as possible into 2022.
Plenty of good receivers in the draft. JD will not go big for a wideout. A good OL that gives a QB a half a second more turns good receivers into great ones.
I totally disagree. Regardless of who the QB is, a rookie, Sam, another vet QB, or Watson, a rookie WR may not help all that much. In order to help the QB succeed (whoever it is) we need a topnotch WR. With the way the draft is looking right now, there's a possibility for getting a WR at #23, then probably not again until the 3rd or 4th round. Watson is not going to come here if we don't promise to add a topnotch WR in FA. Unless we want to make basically the same mistake Mac, Idzik and other Jets' GMs have made, we need to sign one of Robinson, Godwin, Golladay, Samuel, or Davis. We also need to fix the OL. I look for JD to sign a FA WR and OL, maybe even two fo the latter. I also think he will sign a CB, DE and LB. I think our first three picks will go QB, WR/DE/OL/Edge, and WR/TE/DE/CB/OL. I think we get a RB in the 3rd or 4th round. It would be entirely pointless to keep Sam and then not sign a topnotch WR to help him. The odds of a 3rd or 4th round WR lighting it up immediately aren't very good, even though it's a very good and deep WR class. Douglas can't operate on "maybe" or "hoping" a rookie will develop quickly.
Many still came and played for the Jets. One thing about Woody he has no problem spending dough. How long has Namath been living off SB III? He can get free drinks, dinner, and endorsements in New York till he dies and then 20 years after that.
i'm trying to think like JD. I think he is determined to have a top OL. Thuney is the best available. Quite a few rookie receivers had great seasons last year. Anyway with so many teams wanting to move up for the QB who knows what will be available. Maybe Denver, Dallas etc. would part with a top receiver.
A-Robs game has never been built around speed, though. The dudes 27. Couldn’t disagree more with wanting Juju more, Oof. He’s like 7th on my list.
