Quarterback Surplus Swap Meet

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  1. Gremlin

    Gremlin Well-Known Member

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    Well if you are staying at #2 and taking Sewell then trade Becton for a first + change.

    Maybe the Bengals will be willing to give up the #5 for him so we could add another premium player in that slot, maybe one of Chase/Smith, Pitts or even Wilson if he's there then use the additional lower rounds picks to add the depth we need.
     
  2. JetFan20

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    Lol! no offense, but that is an awful idea. Trade Becton do you can take Sewell at number #2? Why not just keep Becton and trade the #2 pick to Cincy?
     
  3. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Becton earned a spot on this squad.

    Unless he is part of a trade for our new QB the only reason to add Sewell is to keep both of them.

    I am sure the Bengals would give us something to move up for their man.
     
  4. ZachMFWilson

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    Stick with Sam this year, get Rodgers next year if necessary.
     
  5. HomeoftheJets

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    Drafting Sewell would be a terrible move because not only would we be passing up a potential franchise QB or the haul we could get for trading down, but we'd have also spent premium draft capital on two offensive tackles, which would have serious diminishing returns. At this point my preferences for the #2 pick are:

    1. Trade it as part of a package for Watson.
    2. Use it on Wilson or Fields.
    3. Trade it down for more picks (could be my second preference if we can still get Lance).
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    4. Use it on a pass-catcher (e.g. Chase).
    ...
    5. Use it on Sewell.
     
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  6. James Hasty

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    If we want Sewell the play is to swap picks with Atlanta.

    Chances are that the QBs go 1-2-3 with him falling in our laps.
     
  7. Gremlin

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    Well my reply was to profer a solution to the fact that one won't want to play the lower paid position of RT so you can't or don't want them both.

    It's rather a microscosm of the Watson Vs Fields/Wilson debate in that you have a known well commodity in who has proven he can play at a high NFL level when he's available against an unproven but possibly generational LT who might be a better fit for the new defensive scheme. You'd be making the bet that Sewell is the BPA at #2 and can perform at or beyond Bectons level.

    Essentially do you want;
    a) A high quality LT for 4 more cheap years?
    b) A high quality LT for 5 more cheap years plus extra draft picks (High first + Low first with an additional high second or multiple seconds) to round out our squad?
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

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    You counter your own argument with the proven commodity versus the unproven commodity sentiment though.

    Sewell appears as though he's going to be great but he's also going to be two years in between games by the time he arrives here.

    I also don't really buy the argument that he's any better of a fit for the zone scheme than Becton. He's a couple inches shorter and obviously lighter but he's still a big boy pushing 330ish.

    I outlined in one of the other threads why Becton could struggle in the zone scheme but I think with a full training camp and an NFL off-season program built for him to maintain his weight and improve quickness he'll ultimately work out just fine in it.

    Trent Williams is listed as much smaller than Becton but he's a big boy (who I imagine is as many as 20 pounds bigger than his listed 320 at this point in his career) and worked out just fine for the 49ers in the wide zone scheme.
     
  9. NYJFOREVER

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    People are really underestimating the impact this will have on incoming rookies and players who opted out this season in the NFL.
     
  10. Gremlin

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    I wasn't pushing it as what I'd 100% do just that there is a reasonable path for this to happen where the Jets coaches/FO see Sewell as just as essentially interchangeable with Becton and they may as well take the extra year and picks.

    My personal preference is that, short of acquiring Watson, we take our QB at #2 and Sewell probably drops to the Bengals anyway.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I can't see us doing that. I don't think it's a worthwhile gamble considering Sewell is just as much of an unknown as anything. It's possible for Becton to regress as well but I'd imagine he lives out his contract here successfully without a catastrophic injury. I definitely don't like how much he seemed to come off the field and get banged around.

    I think a full off-season plan will do him wonders though in getting stronger and converting some of his raw strength, power and speed at his size into moreso football strength, power and speed than just raw attributes. He's definitely far from a technically sound run blocker (better in the technical aspect as far as pass blocking) but he made up for a lot of it by literally just throwing guys around. Long arms and strength allow that to be easy but can allow for lazy technique.
     
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  12. Losmeister

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    Colts going with Wentz

    Hope Sam goes to Detroit for some Knee Biting
     
  13. ConcordeChops

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    That’s bad news. I thought the Colts were the best fit for Darnold.
     
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  14. Losmeister

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    Also, Wentz went for a 3 and conditional 2nd/maybe 1st

    We aint getting that much for Sam
     
  15. ConcordeChops

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    We probably aren’t but Sam doesn’t have a ludicrous contract and a roster bonus due in a few weeks.
     
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    49ers could be a fit.
     
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  17. Losmeister

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    Ya mean the way Sanchez was a "fit" for Jets in 2009-2010?
     
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    Oddly enough, Sanchez played fairly well in the playoffs both years.
     
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  19. Losmeister

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    He played ok.
    The Champ games he basically played solid for half a game each time.

    My point is..... Dilfering your way to the SB isnt the way to go.....
     
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