Multiple teams have called about Sam

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  1. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Remember when we passed on Mahomes and Watson because we had Hackenberg?
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly the point! I'm simply gobsmacked at how dense some of our posters are. They pay no attention to history and haven't learned a damn thing from the mistakes that the Jets have made. It's truly sad, and getting to the point where this site is unbearable.
     
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    F@$& you for reminding me; I had successfully repressed that memory.
     
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    During our 6 game winning streak to close out the 2019 season, Sam Darnold was the top rated passer in the entire NFL.
    During our 6 game winning streak to close out the 2019 season, Sam Darnold was the top rated passer in the entire NFL. Ouch.

    We already have a talented QB to build a solid team around.
     
  5. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    So ur saying Zach Wilson and Justin Fields are Patrick Mahomes and Deshawn Watson? If not, then what are you saying?
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    We didn't have a six game winning streak in 2019.

    If you're talking about the last six games of 2019 though let's break it down and go one step further to the last seven games.

    • He faced the 17th, 25th, 27th, and 29th ranked defenses in four of the last seven games and barely beat the Bills backups in another.
    • His passer rating surpassed 90 in only three of those last seven games.
    • He averaged 245 yards per game - 28 yards below the worst in the league, which was us at 273 yards per game.
    • Multiple passing touchdowns in only three of the seven games.
    • He had at least one turnover in four of seven games.
    • We averaged 20.8 points per game. That would be good for 21st in the league.
    Also, can you provide a link or breakdown for the most cherry picked statistic of all time?

    I haven't run all of the numbers and I won't. But for example, Case Keenum has a passer rating of 107 over his final 8 games in 2017. I'd have to imagine that's near tops in the league. They were 7-1 over than span.

    Over to another cherry picked 8 game stretch in 2016, Marcus Mariota had a passer rating of 117 and threw 21 touchdowns to 3 interceptions.

    Mike Glennon? Don't mind if I do, Bob. Over a 7 game stretch his rookie year, Mike Glennon put together a 98.5 passer rating with 12 touchdowns to 3 interceptions.

    Matt Schaub? All day, baby. In his 2009 Pro Bowl campaign, he posted 16 touchdowns to 6 interceptions, good for a 106.3 passer rating over a 7 game stretch.

    Pro Bowl selection Derek Anderson. Over six games in 2009 he posted a passer rating of 100.1 with 16 touchdowns to 7 licks.
     
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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    How are you related to Sam? Do tell

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    Yeah and over a much larger sample size he's been dead last in the NFL. What's your point? You're apparently not interested in accuracy, just cherry picking small pieces of data to support whatever your predetermined point is.
     
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    Yes, that's EXACTLY the point. As prospects, Wilson and Fields are actually better and higher rated by multiple sources. Of course no one knows if they will be stars, but the same was true about Mahomes and Watson, who were promising prospects we didn't draft even though we had THE WORST QB play in the League previous year, just like we did last year.
     
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    The problem with this is 2020 happened. Otherwise, I would completely agree with you. It is a gamble to assume Sam will return to his pre-2020 form.

    The other problem with it is the Jets were dead at (1-7) and played some weak teams like the Giants, Redskins, Steelers without Big Ben, and the Bills without their starters. It still was a strong way to end the season though and I had hoped it would springboard Sam into a really strong 2020. Instead the opposite happened.
     
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    He had a few good games a few years ago so let’s keep him in one of the most QB Rich FA and draft seasons of all time. Got it.
     
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    I'm not cherry picking anything. Sam had the highest QBR rating of all 32 QBs for the entire month of December, 2019. Not one good game. Not a good half. A quarter of an entire season. That's not cherry picking. Just because this FACT flys in the face of your quest to paint Sam as the worse of the worst, doesn't make it go away.
     
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    That’s literally the definition of cherry picking. You picked one good month out of the 12 he’s been in the league.
     
  14. HomeoftheJets

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    I'm saying Zach Wilson and Justin Fields are much better quarterbacks than Deshawn Watson, who isn't an NFL-caliber quarterback.
     
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    You forgot to mention that Sam Darnold and the NY Jets had more starters out on IR than either team 'rested'. If fact, the Jets had more starters out on IR than any other team, by far.

    I'm sure it was just an oversight.
     
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    I think you meant Darnold, not Watson lol
     
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    Not sure why you responded that way. Don't even worry about that Bills game. It did not mean anything. Worry more about the Jets losing to the Bengals in December, despite Sam's #1 QB stats you speak of.

    That is the problem with Sam. Consistency. Even the amazing month you talked about started with a terrible performance in Cincinnati against a winless (0-11) Bengals team.

    You are preaching to the choir to me about Sam still having potential and succeeding in 2021 and beyond, but bringing up 2019 is not the way to go about it because 2020 happened.
     
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    I meant what I said, Deshawn Watson isn't good enough to play quarterback in the NFL.
     
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    The dog days of the offseason have gotten to this man LOL
     
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    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh are you a troll or what?
     
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