Can we list them? Because when I went back and looked a few days ago the connections were certainly not fabricated, but the connective tissue between who actually posted something, and who actually was speaking in a video wasn't as strong as the "his agent is on video saying he wanted the car in Jets green" twitter reaction led me to believe initially. (I think in that video it was an unknown someone else in a fairly big group of people saying the Jets green comment).
I looked into it actually. It’s his marketing agent, someone very close to Watson, and all of this stuff is coming from the same place. When Watson is car shopping, it’s his marketing agent who makes the “Jet Green comment” The same guy helped produce the “Diplomats music video” on Instagram. He made another Watson to Jets reference on some type of Instagram or Twitter livestream last night. Watson’s actual NFL agent cannot be the one doing this or it’s going to be tampering for sure. But this guy works for Watson, and if Watson didn’t like it, he would have said “shut the fuck up right now”
The Jets gave up 457 points last year. How exactly are you planning to fix both the offense and the defense if you give up a boatload of value for Watson? If you added Deshaun Watson to the Jets last year we'd still have been as bad as the Texans were. We'd have been better than we were but teams basically spent most of the season scoring on us at will. The Texans scored 141 points more than we did and still got beat like a drum because their defense stank. Well our defense was right there with them on the stank scale.
not trying to further complicate things but there's a double edge sword to all of these QB rumors, e.g., Rodgers and Stafford on the move, Rivers retired. Have we heard about Brees Stafford and Rodgers rumors provide high enough quality options that Houston has to lower demands, or teams (us and everyone else) could see those candidates as high quality alternatives even if stop gaps. Not totally clear to me how that plays out for timing for Houston. E.g., if they wait trading options could evaporate . On the flip side, i also think it devalues our #2 pick for similar reasons. Teams who were otherwise considering bidding for our #2 slot to get a QB might see those guys as viable options and save their draft capital Higher supply of talented (known) QBs should drive down price. the flip side to that flip side is Indianapolis and perhaps Saints(and others) might be driving up demands because of retirements or otherwise seeking a reliable upgrade As a general matter I'm philosophically against giving up a lot of picks for any QB when the team already has a lot of holes. But Watson is so good at so many things it might be worth an exception to the rule.
good point about the defense, and tanneybaum said on the radio we should give up anything, including q willams for watson? price is already insane without him. pass!
That depends. I don't think Rodgers will ultimately go anywhere (Stafford could, though). Teams may still value our #2 pick in terms of drafting a young QB on a cheap contract.
To be honest neither Stafford nor Rodgers have anything to do with Deshaun's market. The only teams in play for Watson in reality are NYJ or MIA. If the Dolphins don't get Watson, they run with Too. They don't even consider Stafford or Rodgers. If the Jets don't get Watson they draft a QB at #2. They won't consider Stafford or Rodgers either.
They started to fix the defense by firing Williams. Just having a new defensive coaching staff will improve the unit. And they would still have draft picks left after trading for Watson. It's not like we would be trading the entire draft for him. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
All I’m saying is there is ZERO margin for error going forward. If we trade four first round picks, we’re going to need 3rd round picks to become starters and good starters. Being we drafted Ashtyn Davis and Jabari Zunigga this year, I don’t know if we can make it work
The Jets are young on defense and bringing in a coach that had a top 5 defense even after getting killed with injuries to his top players. They are also getting CJ Mosely back and would have cap space and draft picks even after adding Watson to the roster. If the Jets defense next year is anywhere near the Texans this past year, we hired the wrong coach.
That is unequivocally false and to make that claim is just ridiculous. It's hilarious some people don't understand the amount of resources the Jets would still have even after trading for Watson, despite the fact that this board just spent 100 pages discussing it in another thread.
For whatever it's worth, looks like the odds of Wilson becoming a Jet have moved to 31% on betting sites: Houston is still favored to keep him (45%), and Miami has next best odds at 15%. 69% chance according to this we are not going to get him, but this is still 31% is pretty massive shift in Jets favor ... for now.
TBF Woody said if we give up 4 first round picks. That is 4 potential probowl players. The people who keep claiming "they still don't get it" act like they know the terms of the trade already, and that we wouldn't be giving up all our #1s in any given year. Like Houston is going work around our rebuild for us. In reality they are going to insist on both our 1st this season and probably our 2 as well. If I was in their shoes I sure would. They have a lot of rebuilding to do also. If they dump Watson they are going to need value to show right away.
Yes, please be fair... nobody ever said to give up ALL their picks for Watson. Most of the people that want him have been saying 3 first rounders give or take, yet you keep saying the jets will have no picks left. Regardless, Tom Brady has been in the league for 20 years playing like a pro bowler for nearly all of it. He is absolutely worth an entire draft worth of picks plus jamal adams. But whatever...
I understand that argument, and I would hope that Douglas could get it done for #2 and a 1st in ‘22 and ‘23. But I think you’re underestimating how difficult it is to find a franchise qb and how much Watson’s production would help to put the team in position consistently contend.
