Safety wasn't a critical need. QB was. He missed a tremendous opportunity that was staring him right in the face.
An all pro safety does way less for wins and losses than even a good QB. We can't act like all positions contribute to wins equally and Mac was an idiot for operating as if they did.
I get that i'm just saying only a jets fan would call a draft pick who made the pro bowl all 3 years for us (and an all pro nod) and then was traded for 2 1sts and a 3rd a "bad pick" hindsight is always 2020 but adams turned out to be a great player in the NFL which is all you can ask for from a draft pick
It was a bad pick the second Mac used 6 overall on a safety. It doesn't matter how good the safety turned out to be. Jamal is proof that even if you hit on a guy at a non premium position it doesn't do much for wins and losses. It's a big reason I hate the BPA philosophy so much. It's inherently, fundamentally flawed because it acts like all positions contribute to wins equally.
you guys are overrating the QB Ben is better then baker but lost because the browns are more well rounded The rams had backup john walford and broken thumb mediocre goff and beat a top 5 Qb in wilson because they have a better rounded team the "GOAT" brady lost twice to eli and once to foles in the superbowl it's the old adage offense wins games, defense wins championships. you need a well rounded team to win a superbowl. not just a stud a QB. brees is a HOF top QB in the NFL for over a decade. he won 1 superbowl when he had a top 10 defense. hasn't won one since despite setting all kinds of records.
Really?! Jukes a free rusher in the pocket, and then LB and takes it to the house. Come on. he's more than capable. Just needs to be put in the best position to succeed like any young developing player.
A 3 time Pro Bowl Safety isn't even as valuable as an average QB in this era of the NFL. It was a completely wasted pick on multiple levels, beginning with the failure to know that he needed a QB and two great prospects were there for the taking.
Sorry, I can't agree with the bold unless you mean that Darnold would have been working with Daboll/Dorsey. If so, then Darnold would have had a chance to be better, but I don't think he would even begin to approach the player Allen now is. I also think that Allen probably would have been better on the Jets than Darnold has been. Allen was used to playing with little around him and made those players better. I don't think Darnold is nearly as talented as you do. At one point maybe I did, but not now.
Yep Posters here are talking about not taking a QB this year, taking a RT, taking Edge players and CBs. Very little said here about taking a QB this year and building around him. It's as if we didn't have extra draft picks already this year and next. Instead, they want to trade up next year and burn a ton of draft capital for "a" QB. They don't even have a clue who, just assume there will be a good QB next year (they grown on trees you know), and then they wonder why the Jets have not had a great QB since Namath. Even if were able to come up with the draft picks and find a trading partner, none of the prospects will be as good as Fields or will have played as well or with so much leadership and guts in a big game like Fields. If it weren't so sad and absolutely backwards, it would be funny.
it's not that black and white. Seattle literally has a pro bowl elite QB and the pro bowl elite Safety. not to mention a stacked offense with pro bowl WRs. they still lost to a team with a group of solid but not spectacular WRs, a rookie 2nd round RB, and a back/up slash injured mediocre QB. Things aren't as black and white as you suggest. the 2 best seasons the jets have had in the 20 years we had a horrible QB but made the AFC champ game twice.
The Oline was very good and our D was top notch. I think there are more than one way to build a team, but a good way to start and the way i think JD wants is build from within Oline Dline then outwards. That way you can run the ball with decent RBs and control game instead of having to find a gunslinging QB to throw it 70 times.
Allen needed a lot of help. And he got the help. Now he is thriving. He would not have gotten that help with the Jets. That is just my personal opinion. You are right, I do think Sam is really talented. I also think the Jets hurt him a lot the last 3 years and it may be tough to recover, especially if he tries to on the Jets. He will have a better chance of success elsewhere.
We need a qb more than any team in the NFL . Minshew is a better qb than Sam, yet Jets fans are saying trade out of 2 or take an ot and play him out of position at right tackle, instead of drafting a qb. What if Sam plays OK 24 tds and 12 ints. Still bottom of the league , however a huge improvement for him. How do you hitch your wagon to him. !00 million for an avg qb. Trade Sam.Get a rookie qb
It's easy to say that but it all depends on how Joe D sees the QBs. You don't take a question mark QB with the second overall pick because you have to "get a rookie QB"
Yes, Allen needed a lot of work on his fundamentals and improving his accuracy and reading Ds, and he got the help he needed, but he worked hard. He had the running ability, and that's why I think he would have probably done better with the Jets than Sam if they let him run. I think Sam is talented, but not as talented as Allen. I didn't think Allen would be able to fix his accuracy, so maybe I'm wrong about Sam, but I don't think Sam works as hard as Allen. If he did, he wouldn't still be having problems with his footwork, mechanics or reading Ds in his 3rd season. Physically, he may be as talented as Allen, but not mentally. I think he's slow mentally.
Well if the Jets don't want him, maybe Dallas does! How and why the Cowboys should trade up in 2021 NFL Draft for Ohio State's Justin Fields Rucker Haringey 7 hrs ago Re-signing Dak Prescott is the safe choice for the Cowboys, but making a trade up in the 2021 NFL Draft for Ohio State's Justin Fields might be a stroke of genius for Dallas. © Provided by Fansided Most Cowboys fans are fixated on how their favorite team can lock up Dak Prescott for the long haul this offseason. Admittedly, that's the most likely course of action for Dallas. A more interesting idea might be engineering a way to land Justin Fields in Big D. The Ohio State signal-caller is the consensus No. 2 quarterback in this year's draft class. He does offer some things that likely No. 1 overall selection Trevor Lawrence does not. Namely, Fields projects to be the type of runner who can give NFL defenses fits when he breaks loose from the pocket. Adding that extra dimension to the Cowboys offense could prove deadly for head coach Mike McCarthy and his staff. When healthy, Prescott is a mobile quarterback who can take what the defense gives him, but he isn't a big-play threat. Fields is a player who can turn broken plays into long touchdowns if he gets by the first line of defense. If the Cowboys let Dak Prescott go, Justin Fields could be his successor The public relations nightmare of letting Prescott leave in free agency isn't the only challenge the Cowboys face in this scenario. They'd also need to do a fair amount of work to move up in the draft to position themselves to land Fields. Projecting how far Dallas might need to move up is a pretty inexact science at the moment. The Cowboys have the No. 10 overall pick. There's a chance that might be good enough to land Fields without making a trade, but that's a chance that Dallas cannot afford to take. If they really want to make sure they can land Fields they need to find a way to move into the top-5. The Dolphins, Falcons and Bengals currently possess the third, fourth and fifth picks in the draft respectively. Miami might not want to take a quarterback since they spent a first-rounder on Tua Tagovailoa last year. The same can be said for the Bengals and Joe Burrow. The Falcons might not be ready to spend a premium selection on a successor for Matt Ryan. In short, those are the three teams that the Cowboys should target in trade talks. The price of moving into any of those slots will be significant. The Cowboys will need to part with the No. 10 pick in this year's draft plus a 2022 first-rounder. That's not quite enough to make a jump of this magnitude. Dallas might also be required to part with another mid-round 2021 selection. Adding a third round pick in this year's draft should be enough to get a reasonable deal done. Parting with that much draft capital might seem like too steep a price to pay for moving up five slots, but the value of landing a potential franchise quarterback on a rookie contract is immense. If the Cowboys believe Fields has that kind of ability, they should be tempted to do what's required to land him. It's not a move that will win any press conferences in Dallas, but it could win them a Lombardi Trophy before Fields' career is all said and done.
