The Coming Jets Trade: Sam or #2 Pick

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  1. MDJets

    MDJets Well-Known Member

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    What if they trade a second pick to garner more high picks and still land a solid first rd QB? Still be on the Douglas Doubters?
     
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  2. Jets4eva9011

    Jets4eva9011 Well-Known Member

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    Bong or not, he is in that class. Your sarcastic post doesn't change that, lol.

    And by class, meaning top 5 with Mahomes and Wilson.
     
  3. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    my current view is the jets, not having the #1 to take lawrence, should NOT take a QB at #2. trade out and gather some high round talent and build your team at core positions.

    there are experienced QB's available for the interim with an eye on the QB's coming out in 2022 and 23.

    we'll see.
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Sam Howell at UNC and Spencer Rattler from Oklahoma will probably be the top two targets. Kedon Slovis from USC will be highly regarded but I wouldn't touch another California born kid who plays at USC.

    Howell has concerns in pocket presence and he plays in the Air Raid. Rattler looks like he'll be a stud from the QB school he goes to.
     
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  5. ColoradoContrails

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    Not if he lands a legitimate potential FQB and not a wishful one.
     
  6. JetsUK

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    I remember Rattler from the QB1 show on Netflix - glad to see he appears to have turned things around
     
  7. MDJets

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    Jets have too many holes and besides Fields may not be ready to start NFL, in the beginning....
     
  8. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    This is such clickbaity info. Hes just saying shit. Why do we have to trade sam or the pick we could keep both and draft a qb.

    In their first season

    Kansas City didnt get rid of Smith for Mahomes

    Green Bay didnt get rid of Favre for Rodges

    Hell Dolphins didnt give up Fitz for Tua

    The jets dont have to do that either.

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  9. ColoradoContrails

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    We could keep both, but keeping Darnold at this point is a bad move IMO...other than keeping him until you can get the most value for him, but actually carrying him as a QB on the active roster during next season would be a waste.
     
  10. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What was his issue? I never saw it.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Why? The other option is adding a veteran free agent at a significant cost (relative) of probably $7-10 million a year anyways. Might be worth keeping him around as the starter and see if he improves his value.

    And then if the incoming draft pick beats him out, it's a win, or if Sam plays well and improves his value it's also a win.

    I can't see anyone giving up anything more than a fourth for Sam at this point. Hope I'm wrong and someone rolls a second for him.
     
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  12. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    You have to get a vet qb regardless. So why not keep him? He comes out and plays well, he increases his trade value, he bombs hes gone and still not expensive.

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  13. ColoradoContrails

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    I was of this mindset before today's game, but frankly it'll take the next CS a LOT of work with Darnold to even try to fix his problems which were all on display today. Of course I could be wrong, and maybe I'm just speaking with the emotions of frustration and disgust - quite possible - but even factoring in all of the obstacles that Darnold has had to deal with - and I've defended him for this many times - he is what his record says he is: a below average QB. I think getting rid of him and Gase is "addition by subtraction", and they can't do it quick enough.
     
  14. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't be against moving him or keeping him assuming in both scenarios we draft a quarterback at 2. I can see both sides. If we're floated a second round pick then it's a no brainer. I could see keeping him if the high offer is a four.
     
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    Recent Jet history has shown that handing the keys to a youngster fresh out of college with no competition has not worked out too well for us

    Sanchez, Gino, Sam...

    but Sam is no Favre, Fitz or even Alex Smith
     
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  16. Poeman

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    For what? We'd be wasting his time with us and it creates unnecessary drama. Teams will want that 2 years to see if he is worth the $25 million. It just isn't working here and with a whole new staff it would be a pain in the ass to do this again.

    Would be a whole Sanchez/Tebow or Geno/Fitzpatrick drama again
     
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  17. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I don't think the situations are very comparable. But I think it depends on what the head coach and Douglas think of the kid they take coming out. Are they confident in starting him from Day One? Do they want to give him a year in the league/offense to get comfortable with the grind? Or at least half a season?

    I'm not really opposed to either. I can see the sink or swim mentality but I also understand the other side of giving them a year to get comfortable. The latter isn't ideal given how rookie contracts work. But if they believe he will be the day one starter then you move Darnold and don't worry about what value you're getting back.
     
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  18. Poeman

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    We also have Morgan that will be here to see what he is all about
     
  19. jets_fan

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    If they're moving on from Darnold, they have to bring in a veteran QB to compete with the guy they take in the draft for the job. This business of just handing the job to the rookie has not worked out well at all for the Jets the past decade-plus.
     
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  20. HomeoftheJets

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    I've seen this movie before:

    Fans: "The Jets should take Player A!"
    Jets: Take Player B
    Fans: "Well the Jets evaluation is based on [insert jargon] measures, so they know more than we do."
    Player A: Becomes Pro Bowler.
    Player B: Becomes bust.
     

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