We may not get another 1st from the 49'ers but we should get it from someone, or else we should keep it. The #2 pick gives a team their choice of any other players except TL...that's pretty damn valuable.
Ok Lance and Carson Wentz both went to NDSU.. Wentz has been shitcanned by Eagles ..PASS Sam Darnold is Fools Gold....PASS I am thinking Wilson or Fields will be the JD pick and we better get lucky..and so it goes
That's no reason to pass on Lance. I highly recommend that you watch some video of Lance. I think your opinion will change.
Again, I defer to Douglas, but for me I wouldn't take Lance before the second 1st rounder. He does have elite physical traits, but I haven't seen enough of him against good competition to satisfy my doubts that he can play well under pressure.
Something similar to this from 2016, more if it's with the niners in the teens. "The Eagles get: The No. 2 pick in 2016 and a 2017 fourth-round pick. The Browns get: The No. 8 pick in 2016, the No. 77 pick (third round) in 2016, the No. 100 pick (fourth round) in 2016, a 2017 first-rounder and a 2018 second-rounder."
I read Miami really wants Sewell with the 3rd pick (from Texans), but Bengals could offer lots to jets to move up and get Sewell before Miami.
Maybe KC would do that for Sewell but I doubt it. We can settle for seconds if the swap is in the top 10. I'd swap with Miami for their 36, and 54. But only because we drop one position.
Maybe - but as you said only because it's dropping 1 spot. But I'd want a 1st from them next year too.
If Justin Fields plays great tonight and Ohio State upsets Lawrence and Clemson, would Jets fans instantly return to wanting Fields #2 overall?
In that case you'd miss getting him. IMO he'll never last that far. I highly recommend that you watch a lot of video on him. You know I like Wilson, but Lance has moved way ahead of Wilson imo. Lance could be ranked as the 2nd best QB prospect by the time the draft happens, and go in the top 5. He has a very strong, accurate arm, is mobile and has prototypical size. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4jpfQj9RAI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXEWg4O2OZg
Miami has two firsts this year. I'd like to say I want both their firsts and their 2nd from the Texans. Just don't think we'd get that much to move one slot. They are pretty focused on their rebuild. I'd want more from Miami because they are a division foe. But I'd take less because going from 2-3 still gives us the QB options. We get 2 seconds in the bank and the trade Fields for what we can.
The QB's are going to bounce around after Lawrence, shifting positions in the rankings as the bowl season concludes and then the combine and pro days occur. This is because the draft this year, after Lawrence, is a fairly typical QB draft. Nobody else is a lock to do anything spectacular at the pro level. The value teams get out of the QB picks other than Lawrence is likely to be arbitrage type value with the cheaper the 1st/high 2nd the more likely to see spectacular gains vs the value of the pick spent. It is absolutely true that any of Fields, Wilson, Lance, etc could be a great NFL QB, and even possibly better than Lawrence - see Ben Roethlisberger > Eli Manning and Dan Marino > John Elway for those comparisons. However nobody is smart enough to figure out who the great QB is after Lawrence. In that light it is just better to sit at your pick (not a top 10 pick) and take the guy you like best when your number is called. That is where the value is. The teams trading up and over-drafting a QB this year are both bidding against themselves and failing to respect the collective knowledge of the NFL. It is no wonder that those teams generally speaking are going to be sorry they made the pick they did in a few years. The Jets have two *wonderful* sniping picks for a QB at 28 (roughly) and 34. Both of those picks will likely have access to the 4th and 5th QB's on most people's boards and those 4th and 5th QB's will have approximately the same actual value as QB's 2 and 3. QB 6 may well have similar value to the 2nd-5th QB's taken. That's just how QB value works for guys who are not the consensus #1 QB in a year in which that guy is seen as a franchise guy.
Good post! How do we know QB's 2-5 are any better than Sam though? They likely may not be. So Douglas may want to use #2, #28 and #34 to build a team around Sam. It's interesting. The Jets have many options this off-season, but ALL of them point to having a better team and roster in 2021. Exciting times may finally be returning for Jets fans!
Value in where you draft a player isn't everything. QB is THE most important position on a team, and the greatest determining factor in whether a team is a winner or loser. Teams WILL trade up for a QB. IMO it would foolish for any team to miss out on a QB they want because it wouldn't be ideal value. If the QB proves to be a FQB, it will be worth it, regardless of where you drafted him. If you draft him low and he doesn't prove to be a FQB it's not a good value wherever you took him. I totally disagree that any team trading up is betting against itself. I'm sorry, but that's just silly and shows a lack of understanding of how few quality QBs there are in the NFL and the great need of so many teams to upgrade their QB position. I'm here to tell you now that I believe that none of the top 4 QBs will last until pick #27 or #28. The Jets would miss on getting a QB if they did that. Trask might be there at #28, but imo he's not worth the pick.
