I know Chris Jones makes 16+ mil a year......Frank Clark and Honey Badger also come to mind.......but it does seem like everyone got an extension......"Can't pay everyone " doesn't seem to apply to KC yet.....
I might take Lance with the 2nd first rounder...maybe. He's very raw and has played in a weak conference. I just don't see the Jets taking him, but then again I have idea what Douglas is thinking.
Here is anther glass half full take on picking 2nd-- If we would have won those close games vs. Pats Broncos and Raiders--and potentially next week. We would have finished with 6 wins and picking in the teens--maybe even saving Gase for sure. If you think about it, this is a tough to handle but it could have been worse
His extraordinary talent also masks other deficiencies on the team. It also helps that Andy Reid almost never has and never will have a bad offensive line.
The Jets could wait on the QB falling to the Seahawks pick or even the #33. That would be the looking for Drew Brees, Lamar Jackson, Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick move. High upside for the value the pick represents otherwise. Low chance at a true star QB - although that is true on every pick that is not the #1 pick. These two feel good wins at the end of a lost season are actually among the worst *losses* the franchise has ever endured.
Not sure I would say he shit the bed against Indiana. He didn't have a great game, but he moved the ball most of the time and put points on the board. Northwestern game was more brutal. Read that as well, certainly a concern that it happened to both arms. One shoulder injury you could argue was a a fluke, but two and on both shoulders is a bigger concern and may be indicative of overall weakness. That's the primary reason I want Fields to step up and lock the number #2 spot. I will certainly be rooting for him on Friday. He also appears to have a bigger arm than Haskins, according to these who played with both: https://theozone.net/2019/05/justin-fields-stronger-dwayne-haskins/.
Uhhh because Russell is a future hall of famer while Sam is among the worst QB's in the league? Are you serious? Is your argument that the difference in production between Sam and Russell Wilson can be explained by their surrounding talent on offense? Really...?
We are building this year. We are not drafting a QB. JD is no fool. When you are rebuilding you dont use a high pick on a consolation prize QB. We will stock up on draft picks and start filling out the roster. We have some trades that could seriously bolster this draft, primarily Sam and potentially Mosley. We will have a lot of rookies in camp next season and a ton of cap space going forward.
So we aren’t gonna draft a QB but we’re also gonna trade Sam? Good luck finding a quality head coach that will sign up for that.
Thats something about this board. People think quality head coaches are the ones that want to go to teams that are already stacked to win. The real quality HCs are the ones that want to go to a losing team and turn them around. Coaches that want a fresh start to build with their people. Our problem finding a coach will be that nobody wants to work for the Johnsons, not that they want Sam Darnold or reach rookie QB.
I don’t think coaches only want to go to teams that are stacked. Never implied that. I said good luck finding a quality coach that would want that situation and turn the volume up even louder when you look at the other jobs available. If you’re trying to tell me a top coach would prefer a QB-less Jets team to the Jags and Lawrence, the Texans and Watson, etc. then I just can’t buy that at all.
I like the idea of Trask (not sure where he goes)... You bring him in to compete for backup with Morgan + see what you have with both, while giving Darnold one more chance... You hope one guy steps up, but are not so vested (like#2) that you have to let Darnold go and turn the keys over to the new guy.
There is going to be better jobs then ours and we cant help that. But if a new HC was asked if he would like to trade Darnold and a low rounder for another #1 pick he'd immediately say, "yes please".
Agreed, that’s where I would want to take Lance. My plan would be Sewell with the 2nd pick, Lance with the Seattle 1st and WR/RB (Etienne perhaps) in round 2.
First of all, there is some speculation that the media/fans are way higher on Sewell than front offices. They think he is good yes but not this sure-fire hall of fame talent everyone seems to think. He also has not played for a full year. This leads me to believe it is very unlikely that he is rated so far and away above other prospects. Second, using first round picks is not the only way to become good on the offensive line. Look at the teams with the best OL, and how many first round picks have they used over the last 10 years. Most are 2, 3 at most. You need to hit on later picks
I’m no talent expert, but I just don’t see any of Fields, Wilson, Trask, etc worth the number two pick. I hate the idea of reaching at 2 for a QB who has a high failure probability just because Sam hasn’t played well. I think any of these guys would be minimal, if any, improvement on Sam, and I think we’d be in this exact boat two years later. I think Fields is a product of a great OL and running game and was exposed when he played real defenses, and he comes from a school that has not historically produced NFL quality QBs, and I think Wilson is a bit small and comes from a school that is playing against weaker competition, so I’m not sure how well he’d translate to the NFL either. Just like passing on both Watson and Mahomes because MacMoron had just drafted Hack was a monumental franchise altering fuck up, reaching for a QB at two who isn’t worth it would also be a colossal failure. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see either Fields or Wilson as great options, and even more so if they start rising up the charts through the pre draft process, which is always a red flag for me. If they weren’t worth it right after watching real games, then they shouldn’t be worth it after watching some workouts. this will be tough for JD...can’t wait to see how he navigates this offseason....he has a lot of ammo to improve with both picks and cap space, but these meaningless wins REALLY muddied the water here.
There's a big difference between QB's taken end of the 1st/top of the 2nd and QB's taken after that. The primary reason this is the case is that most NFL franchises will take a QB they really like and rate highly long before the 51 pick which is where Hackenberg was drafted. So the collective wisdom of the league will snap up good QB prospects by the 4th pick or so of the second round. This is the point at which all the teams in the NFL have had a shot at taking the guy and the really bad teams have had 2 shots. This is why that 26 to 34 range is such a good area to snipe for QB's. It's still very possible that none of the QB prospects left are worth a pick in the range but it's not like the entire league has said NO and the bad teams that need a QB have said NO twice already.
I'm not all that sure on this point. A young QB with upside is worth a lot to a new HC. He may not be the guy but he is definitely a good option to throw into your first QB competition and see what shakes out. If the Jets were getting Lawrence it's a different deal but aside from Lawrence I'm not sure I see another QB in this draft that makes me think Darnold is expendable in the blind before camp has played out next year.
