Totally disagree. What more do you want the guy to do in one year. Do you think another GM could have done more. Please let me know what you expected in one year from our GM. He hasn't given out any big contracts yet, he took on a roster that is in Tallent hell, he has gotten us plenty of Draft capital for the next 2 years. We will have 95 mil in cap space after cutting Anderson & Lewis, in a time when the cap is 35 mil lower than expected. He is setting us up for the future, not a quick fix like Mac did. He is doing a great job considering what he was given to work with. Sounds like your a Mac guy...pour all your assets into this year to try to make a big splash & if it doesn't work tear it down & start again after putting the team in hell for the next 3 to 4 years. We need continuity on this team & JD is a good place to start.
My viewpoint is that Gase has had five years to prove he is an NFL head coach - he has failed to do so. His time is up.
Sorry, JD let Robbie walk. He’s a top-10 WR this year with a game manager Bridgewater throwing to him. That’s a huge strike against his abilities. Sure you can acquire draft assets, that’s not how contenders win only. You have to sign valuable free agents, keep key contributors, and literally NEVER let your best offensive weapon walk for a FREE pack of Skittles. JD has only showed he can draft decent players. Becton is a 1st so not including him. even Macc got us good 1sts with Quinnen and Adams. Mims looks like a stud. But the safety kid is meh, Zuniga is nowhere to be found and James Morgan wtf! Perriman is on the injury report every week. I mean you think Trevor Lawrence really wants to play here lol... https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/receiving
New HC and QB in the building will give him at least 2 unquestioned years so we can more accurately grade his drafting and the advancement of our FQB. If Gase stays or we do something crazy like trade out of the #1 spot then he's a dead man walking.
I wouldnt care if we blew up the whole thing....JD letting Robbie walk was a huge red flag for me..And We lost Adams because of Adam Gase.You cant lose your two best players on a team with no talent.Unless they were trying to tank from the begining...
my take if it matters.... Gase out with entire staff - that's an easy one. IMO feelers have already been put out to harbaugh. we'll see. Douglas - retain him for at least 2 more years. it takes at least a year, maybe 2, to unwind the incompetence and failures of the prior 2 GM's. Darnold - a bit harder, IMO. I'm on record for posting that there is an argument to retain him and parlay the picks. likely won't happen at #1 but if we finish at #2 there is a better shot it does happen. i don't like fields for this team. Hey, Fitzpatrick will be available. LOL.
His first draft class wasn't without questionable picks, but it's looking like the top two picks are starters along with a possible starter at CB. Three starters and a depth piece or two is a great draft. He not going anywhere.
*sigh* 0-16 isn't the kind of continuity I want. A GM goes 0-16 in this league he deserves to be fired. Now if they were to win a game or two I'd be in a much more forgiving mood. I'd be absolutely stunned if the only other two teams to go 0-16 didn't fire their GMs immediately after those seasons. I remember JD's comment this past offseason about the importance of having speedy game breaking WRs this was before he allowed Robby to walk out the door. Now I see Mims my goodness I can't remember seeing a slower, highly drafted WR. Because of his lack of speed every pass thrown his way has a high probability of getting broken up or intercepted. This guy doesn't know what he's doing. JMO PLEASE if this team does go 0-16 CLEAN HOUSE!!!! GET PEOPLE HERE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!
JD is in charge of all of this. What happened today was another example of how bad JD and the Jets are. Greg Williams gave the game to the RAIDERS.
Lmao you want them to win out for what? To hope Darnold is who you want him to be? He sucks, perioid. Let go of that. JD is smart. Get rid of overpayed mediocre talent, let the young guys play, draft well after the tank and start over forreal. That first season of mac fucked this team big time by over achieving. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
Adams is overrated and the seahawks defense hasnt been any better with him. Dunlap has made a bigger difference. You think a safety is a premium position? He got rid of a selfish player. Seattle will too, they wont pay him. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
It’s pretty obvious we are tanking for Lawrence and Gase will be fired. Depending on who the coach is will determine JDs fate. I’m thinking it’s going to be Jim Harbaugh. JD must know him through John Harbaugh somewhere down the line.
Going 0-16 and getting one of the most highly regarded QB prospects in history, dumping over paid players, stockpiling draft picks, and not wasting cap space on signings that may make you slightly better (hooray for your 1-15 or 2-14) but won’t take you anywhere in the long term, is the very definition of knowing what you are doing. the fact that you don’t recognize that exemplifies how little you know about building a team. But there is no requirement to understand what you are talking about here, so carry on with your nonsensical ranting.
I get both sides of this. We’ve had countless rebuilds and we’ve gotten them wrong constantly. We have the two idiots as owners still. Douglas looks like he will be a good GM but hasn’t fully proven himself yet. Many Jets fans think the will ruin the next QB we get based on our track performance thus far. Going 0-16 could make us look dumb and wasted us another season. Miami also didn’t need the first pick to rebuild successfully. Lawrence is worth IMO. There is nothing else to hope for other than him being the savior of this terrible franchise.
As far as I'm concerned, he gets as many as he wants. For those of you screaming because he didn't sign Clowney, you were wrong then and are wrong now.
Those that think we will ruin the next QB should just stop being Jets fans for their own sake. The team has officially driven them nuts. They've lost the ability to reason when it comes to the Jets. What happened with Bowles and Gase and Mac, have NOTHING to do with Douglas, and have zero bearing on what will happen. It's totally irrational to think that it would. Lawrence also isn't Sam, or Geno Smith, or Mark Sanchez. Douglas may not be proven yet, but the OL and WR Corps are already better than they've been in any other time in Sam's career, or over the last 5--10 years. Douglas just had one of the best Jets drafts in a loooooooooong time, and there's no reason to think he won't have another very good draft in 2021 and 2022, especially with all the picks he has. He handled the draft this year like an experienced veteran. He gets great value in trades.
I have no idea whether Douglas is what we hope he will be — but going 0-16 in a season where it actually benefits a bad team to be the worst team isn’t a negative on his decisions. In fact, the decisions he made that likely contributed to us being (potentially) 0-16 instead and just 2-14 reflects smart decision making, not poor decisions making. He was smart enough to know this was a bad team that no amount of spending would improve significantly this year and lead to continued improvement, and it would be absolutely meaningless to spend now on contracts that could hinder his ability in a few years to sign players when the team may actually be ready to compete. the awfulness of this team reflects his understanding of when and how to spend, and this season wasn’t it.
Oh yeah I get your point, but its totally understandable that fans think this way. Darnold was also a highly touted prospect by many in the league and we were sold this who "we're gonna get Darnold help" plan with bringing in Gase and eventually Douglas. The problem is Douglas wanted to rebuild (which is fine), but it wasn't communicated that way. If anything getting Lawrence is needed just just for his talent but we need to hit the reset button on QB contract and development wise.
