Yup. We could have a replay of 2018 when the Browns stunned the world and took Mayfield over Sam. But this time Joe Douglas could stun the world and take Fields over Trever (assuming we have the #1). Someone on here wrote a take where JD trades with Jags to swap #1/#2, where Jags take Trevor #1, we take Fields #2 and we take a lot of Jags future draft capital for doing the swap. Now THATS is probably the Best option: Jets get a TOP young QB to start over with AND we get another boat load of draft capital to make it happen.
That was a surprise but NOT a stun the world moment. In fact, rumours of Baker ascending to #1 were rampant in the days before the draft. And Kansas City/Cleveland reports had said Dorsey wanted Baker as far back as November 2017 and had told a few select people. Never happening.
Yes, I remember that too. The day or two b4 the draft, rumors were flying about Browns taking Mayfield. Most said it was probably a smoke screen. Although a few on here wanted Mayfield too. But the draft announcers seemed truly shocked when Baker was picked first. I know a lot of fans here on TGG were happy as hell.
If JD did that he’s a lot dumber than he looks. Lawrence had a rough game but still made plays when he needed too. Fields basically played RB yesterday and made a few nfl passes...
As a fan of Clemson. Their top 2 big body WR are out. A lot of timed passes here and a vanilla game plan because of the game in two weeks. Judge Lawrence in Charlotte.
I wouldn't even bother considering that offer if I were Douglas. The bare minimum he should get is what Washington gave up for RGIII. That's the absolute, bare minimum (3 firsts and a second). He should push even higher than that, not just swap firsts with Chicago and then get their 2-7th picks. Those Chicago fans are delusional for thinking that this would solve all of their problems, but also for thinking that this would be all they would need to part with to get up to #1.
It's a moot point, because if we get the #1 pick we're not trading it. But to me, the starting bidding begins at four #1 draft picks. And maybe 5. RGIII was picked #2 overall and wasn't the talent that TL is.
I definitely would set it higher. Was just making the point that Douglas shouldn't even consider just taking Chicago's 1-7 this year as it doesn't even meet the haul that RGIII brought in 8 years ago. I wouldn't trade the pick either. Even with as much good as Douglas has done already, as far as I'm concerned, he would instantly put himself on the hot seat by passing on Lawrence.
Yeah, that is not going to happen though. Fields is a good QB. The Jaguars will be more than happy to take him at #2 overall if that is where they land. I find it funny when fans seem to take sides. Some back Lawrence, some back Fields. I watched both and they both seem like good prospects. I see Pro's and Con's with both, but also both worthy of the Jets Top pick if it is #1 or #2. The options Douglas and the future coaching staff will have to weigh is What is the Best Deal? -Drafting Lawrence and trading Sam -Drafting Fields and trading Sam -Keeping Darnold and trading the top pick for many more picks. -Keeping Darnold and Using the Top pick on an offensive tackle to protect Sam. Keeping Darnold also involves Salary Cap as he will have to start being paid big money in 2022. It's more complicated than people think.
Lawrence is the better prospect than Fields, but it should be noted that there was a lot of support missing from Fields day yesterday.
I watched Fields yesterday and tbh I wasn’t impressed again. He made a few nfl throws but that’s it. He basically took off and ran if his first read was covered. It was like watching a bigger slower version of RG3 out there.
If we get the top pick we are taking TL... I see no way we trade it...Sam has played way too poorly to make us pass on TL....had he played better and given more hope, then maybe that would have been a play, but the way he has regressed, no way. And when you add in the salary savings on a rookie QB contract it just seals the deal. Sam would have to have been playing LIGHTS OUT to make us pass on a top prospect and pay him big money....he hasn’t come close I also don’t see us taking Fields over Lawrence. I’ll be real curious to see the hype leading up to the draft. People start way over analyzing and over thinking it. Every year you see guys shoot up the charts after the season because someone runs a 4.2 forty or some shit like that. It’s crazy. TL has been THE guy for a couple of years now. A couple more games shouldn’t change anything. He has beaten the best...he has championships, he comes from a great program...if we get the top pick, trade Sam for whatever we can get and take Lawrence and don’t look back. this is not complicated Now...if we get the second pick, then we have an issue. I will be the first to admit I’ve not seen Fields play a single game, so I have nothing to go on. The only thing I know is that Ohio State has not historically produced great NFL QBs. I’m trying to think of a single one...Haskins has been a bust. Don’t know who was before him, but that school is not about QBs. I would hesitate long and hard before taking Fields. Not saying he’s not good, but for whatever reason, that school does not coach up, recruit, whatever....they just don’t develop QBs. And that worries the shit out of me....we absolutely NEED to keep losing and get that first pick.
I'm trying to find more video and analysis of Lawrence, and came across this one which I think is fair and balanced: This one I believe is also fair, but more critical: And here's a video that compares Lawrence to Fields that I think is also fair: I figured I might as well just make this a one on one comparison post, so here's a video of Fields: And a follow up from the same analyst...more critical: Third part of the Justin Fields analysis by the same guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QAHFv8gQJI After watching all these, here's what I think so far: 1. I see why Lawrence and Fields are listed 1 and 1A, and why for certain teams, Fields may actually be better. 2. Both QBs benefit a lot from playing on great teams with great coaching, and neither have been put under very much pressure, so it's hard to say how their game will hold up in the NFL. That said, both show great ability and I believe will succeed to some level. To put it another way: both are much better than Darnold. 3. Related to the previous point, both seem to rely on their first read most of the time, and in the NFL that often isn't open. This is a big problem for Darnold, so I'm leery of endorsing a QB who relies so much on his first read. 4. As of now, here's where I'm at between them: If the Jets had a good OL - which they don't, and may not have for another year at least - and they had a good receiving corps, including at least one true stud, I would say Trevor Lawrence would be a great fit. But the reality is they don't have these things yet. So I think Fields and maybe Zach Wilson, MIGHT be a better fit because of their ability to make plays off platform and to improvise, which until things change for the Jets, will be the majority of the plays, either by design or by execution. I REALLY want to say Lawrence because his is THE prototypical NFL QB, and if the Jets could actually improve the OL and the receivers, he could be the Second Coming of Namath. His physical abilities are FAR better than Darnold's, and so he might be able to overcome the challenges that have crippled Sam, but as you can see in the film, he has some holes, and if he's thrown to the wolves right away, he might wind up "seeing ghosts" too. I'm still open as to who I prefer, and will be looking to find more video and analysis to help me settle in on a clear choice.
Did Gregg deliberatly call the all out blitz? I really hope he did knowing we would get beat deep Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk
For the first time, the playoffstatus.com engine is now projecting us to go winless. Curiously, Jags still projected to win two games. http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/nfldraftorder.html
I'm worried that JAX has played about 5 super close games, lost them all, and now is just out of gas. This is like 3 or 4 weeks in a row they conceivably could have won their game.
