Sam just isnt good... (Merged)

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  1. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Chris Leake Career HS numbers:

    1,013 completions
    15,593 passing yards
    185 Passing TDs/ 216 total TDs
    3-year Captain
    3 State Championships
    3x State Championship MVP
    46 consecutive wins in HS!

    Undrafted. No NFL Stats. Played in the AAFL and CFL for a while.



    High School means nothing in the NFL.

    Yes, the Jets need a QB, and Yes, Lawrence looks like the best option by a wide margin.
    High school stats are the dumbest reason this side of birth weight to be excited about any player.
     
  2. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    You really are far too quick to fall in love bro.
     
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  3. jetstopgun

    jetstopgun Well-Known Member

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    I’m sorry but if a team is able to get Sam for a fourth or fifth rounder and surround him with talent and a real coach that going to actually teach him they’re gonna be laughing all the way to the bank I believe that
     
  4. dmw

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    That interception yesterday where there 4 Buffalo Bills were close to the ball. Yikes! That was really bad. You would never see Brady do something like that.
     
  5. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    People claimed Sam had no O-Line in years past only to see multiple O-Lineman starting for other teams once leaving Sam Darnold.

    People claimed Sam had no WR weapons in years past only to see Robby Anderson become a top 5 WR in both receptions and receiving yards once leaving Sam Darnold.

    People claim it's Adam Gase but yet fail to realize Ryan Tanny put up QB Ratings of 92 and 93 during his only two seasons with Gase compared to Sam now having a QB Rating of 65 this year (dead last) and 31.1 yesterday WITHOUT GASE CALLING THE PLAYS!

    Sam Darnold is the #1 problem.
     
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  6. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Sam frequently "runs for his life" when there's no reason to. He has horrendous pocket awareness. Burrow is behind the worst o line in football and he's average like twice as many yards per game as Sam is.
     
  7. dmw

    dmw Well-Known Member

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    No matter who is right in this discussion, if the Jets get the #1 pick in the draft, they are picking Lawrence.
     
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  8. Jonathan_Vilma

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    The shitty talent argument goes out the door when a guy like Case Keenum can complete 64% of his passes on that bad Washington team last year with 11 touchdowns/5 picks.

    Did anyone watch the Eagles/49ers game? CJ Beathard came in in the 4th quarter and went 14/19 for 139 yards and a TD drive to pull the game within a stop or onside kick of winning.

    The legendary Drew Lock and Jacoby Brissett outplayed Sam in 2019. Daniel Jones doubled up his touchdowns to interceptions in 2019. And he's nowhere near a good NFL starter.

    I'm not sure why people are so protective of him. Probably because he's been hyped around here as some sort of savior since his first couple games at USC.

    I'm also tired of hearing about confidence. I got tired of hearing it with Sanchez. "No confidence."

    I'm not a big Kyler Murray fan. But he gets fucking PISSED when gets screw up. He reamed out two tightends on a bubble screen last night on the sidelined when they missed their blocks. He threw a horrible interception last night that basically should've sealed their fate. Every time that guy gets in the huddle though he's in command. He gives every single player a fist bump before every drive to say we got this.

    Quarterbacks have to have thick skin and short memories and an edge to them. Throw a pick? Gotta throw a touchdown next drive. This isn't the 1980s anymore where the big media markets rule. Every single city that has an NFL franchise is essentially a big media market. Aaron Rodgers got ripped to shreds by the national media after his game versus the Buccaneers.

    Enough with the confidence shit. He needs to inject himself with some confidence. If you need it to come from someone else then maybe you're not an NFL player.
     
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    I'll tell you. The position Adams plays is way down the list in importance in the modern NFL and they got a No.1 for him. Your opinion of Sam may not be shared across the league.
     
  10. NYJFOREVER

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    Lots of callers on 98.7 making excuses for Sam today.

    Yes, the guard play has been bad this season and the wide receivers as a unit are below average. Yes, the coaching is an absolute joke.

    None of that excuses FOUR YARDS OF OFFENSE IN A HALF! Sam right now is just as bad, if not worse than Mark Sanchez in 2012. It’s time to move on.
     
  11. jetstopgun

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    You’re gonna sit here and say that Sam is the number one problem on this team are you for real?? come on man you’re better than that
     
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    Yeah that’s because he’s got real NFL wide receivers and a coach that halfway knows what he’s doing
     
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    Yes I agree it is time to move on but the pile on the guy like it’s ALL his fault it’s just ludicrous...
     
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    I thought Defense Wins Championships?
     
  15. REVISion

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    Nobody is saying it's entirely his fault, we're just pushing back on the LARGE number of our fans who seem to think that Darnold is a top 10 QB and is being held back by everyone else. There are way more of our fans who think that than ones who think Sam is the only problem.
     
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  16. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Yes. I am. When you're in your 3rd year? And have the 32nd rated QB rating? Dead last? And coming off a 31.1 QBR yesterday?

    Yes. He's the #1 problem because we ended up drafting an absolute BUST from USC.

    He was a turnover machine in HS (17-18 fumbles). He was a turnover machine @ USC with both INTs and fumbles and now he's an NFL turnover machine with our Jets.

    Sam Darnold is the #1 problem as a QB because if not Jet fans wouldn't want to go 0-16 for TREVOR LAWRENCE!

    It's sad when I could predict 2 INTs from Sam yesterday in the Game Thread heading into Buffalo game. And. Sam did as I predicted (without Gase calling plays) and tossed another 2 INTs.

    He's absolutely awful.
     
  17. jetstopgun

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    No question about it they should take Lawrence with the number one pick ...I just disagree that Sam is useless Or could never lead a team....He’s gonna need to be coached up and he’s going to need talent around him like every other quarterback in this league
     
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  18. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Not when a LB plays QB it doesn't lol
     
  19. jetstopgun

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    OK young man we will agree to disagree I truly believe if Sam is In the right situation he will do well
     
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  20. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Sam can't be compared to every other NFL QB in this league.

    Compared to every NFL QB in this league Sam is ranked DEAD LAST IN QB RATING. 32ND to be exact. QB Rating of 65. Coming off a QB Rating of only 31.1 yesterday.

    Not all QBs have situations that smell like roses. But no QB has been an horrible as Sam.

    Even Ryan Tanny put up QB Ratings of 92 and 93 under Gase during their 2 years together. Sam Darnold? 65! Yesterday without Gase calling plays? 31.1!

    Sam is another USC BUST.
     

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