It depends on your philosophy. What if you have Mahomes vs. Wilson? I would rather have the Titans vs. Anyone of those teams. They can control clock and physically wear out the other teams defense, limiting the offensive plays by the other team.
It definitely depends upon one's philosophy. Your philosophy is 1960s or earlier NFL. Maybe leather helmet era. No thanks! Give me Mahomes any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I agree the Johnsons are just cashing checks. Maybe the league should step in and make them sell the team. If the cheap lousy owners of the Mets could unload that wreck the Jets could be too.
Every time I hear Mahome's name I get sick cause we could have had him free and clear. Even folks on this site didn't want him thought the offense he came from wouldn't work. Well, worst scouting report ever!!
This is rock bottom for me. Coming out of the gate and going 0-5 is demoralizing. That's not even the worst part it's watching Gase coach the same mistakes every week. If he had any pride and sense of self he would quit. Because he is ruining also his potential employment prospects be it college or assistant coach. No way would I hang around this train wreck.
If Gase quit, I'm not certain that he would get paid the remainder of his contract. If he gets fired, however, the Jets have to pay him the remainder of his contract. Also, quitting would be the worst thing he could do in terms of his pride and career (not that he'll ever get hired as a coach again). It would say that he's quitting on himself and on the team, and not going to try to turn things around. It would be comparable for him to say, "I suck. I've got nothing. I have no clue how to fix anything and I'm not capable of learning and growing or changing/adapting." As long as he's there, it at least appears as if he is trying to turn things around. With the injured players coming back, he could possibly win a game or two instead of being stuck with an 0 fer.. He's not gonna quit.
league doesn't care and the owners don't care. as long a business makes money the owners don't care about the rest
I think you're right about the league, as long as the team makes money and draws fans. The effective ownerships such as the Pats, Steelers, Green Bay, Cowboys, etc. probably like having a perennial doormat like the Jets in the league. The Jets despite all their travails, still draw fans to the stadium, still sell merchandise, still get ratings on TV games. History shows that one of the most effective agents of change is boycotting. What is needed is a Gandhi-esque movement in which he was able to convince the entire colony of India (millions and millions of people) to stop buying cotton dry goods made in England. Unfortunately that's not likely to happen with the Jets despite having a fanbase many times less than the population of India. However, I disagree about the Johnson's. I think they want to win, just don't think they know how to go about it.
If he thought gase was bad, he would be gone already, he still had some faith. No need to lie. Could say everyone is being evaluated including the coach! Not give fan base bunch of poo. There is ways to say things, but to outright lie something else. He is still in bed with gase at this point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
NFL has profit sharing. boycotts won't help. it'll be taken by fans of the teams we are playing. There is no stopping an NFL franchise. all you can do is give up and go root for another team so you don't have to deal with it.
I recently read somewhere who used this analogy on what is going on with JD and all the recent moves. He said that JD was brought in to rebuild the team, not remodel it. He goes on to say the difference is that the Jets have been remodeling for decades but to Jets fans, they said they were rebuilding and all that the past GMs, who were contractors, were really remodeling. They were salvaging pieces and trying to remodel the team with those players. JD is the first contractor that said fuck this, we're rebuilding the team. He knows it takes more than 2 years to rebuild and that's why he wanted a 6 year deal to rebuild this team. He's tearing everything down, making moves to rebuild from scratch and the only way he can do that is to remove all of the work the previous contractors have done. It makes sense. I truly believe JD is the one who can do it. Sure, it didn't pan out with some of the deals he made, but that's why he made one year deals with a lot of players. Get through the first season, rebuild through the draft. He's picking up draft picks and there will be more players traded for pics. Now the only thing that doesn't fit in here is the coach. He's the foreman on the job and he's obviously making sure the rebuild goes as plan. Not using players to their best ability, looking like a deer in headlights when plays are not executed. I don't know what the fuck is going on with Gase, but I sure do think that JD is one I trust to do a complete rebuild instead of a remodel. "In Douglas I Trust"
What about Idzik? He didn't really do anything. He came from Seattle and then tried to remodel. He was in my mind a person who couldn't rebuild, only remodel.
Idzik stripped the team down, collected draft picks, and got us the most cap space in the league. It's the exact same thing Douglas is doing now, and Jets fans were saying about Idzik exactly what you're saying about Douglas. Heck, they were even talking about Idzik's Seahawks pedigree.
The difference I believe is that JD is a disciple of Ozzie Newsome who made Baltimore an elite team year in and year out. Then JD took that knowledge and help build the Eagles into SB Champions. JD is a football minded person. Idzik was a bean counter that in the end his draft picks sucked donkey dick. Remember Dee Milliner, how about Geno Smith or even Jace Amaro. Yeah, he had some picks that stuck around, Richardson, Winters but in the end, they were all back up talents that couldn't become the stars the Jets needed. That's why he was a remodeler, not a rebuilder IMO.
That's because at the time, Idzik's strategy was correct. Especially considering the cap hell he inherited. He was just an awful talent evaluator and was influenced by a head coach that that had no idea how to evaluate talent or develop it. Douglas didn't inherit any cap problems. And instead decided to strip the roster down even further and gather draft picks. So if he ends up being a garbage talent evaluator we're in an equally big hole because we're going to burn premium picks on shitty talent.
They had one shot where he was rolling his eyes. That might be on back page of post. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If JD does not fire Gase tomorrow he is not anywhere the GM people think. No coach can come into this mess and lead us out of the number one pick. However,we can show progress. We are not going to show it under Gase. We need to move on now. JD can start to mix in his tyle of player,try them out. Most will not work however you might find a few gems. We can not play worst next wkend with a new coach as we did the past 6 wks. We do not need to ride Gase till the end of the season,get rid of the cancer and start the recovery now. We will still go 0-16 however we might have some positives to build on
