Jeff Smith

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  1. K'OB

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    He got 3 targets never caught anything, known Gase he probably felt it was Berrios's fault and then hooked him.

    Of course, I may just be being a massive cunt to Gase but frankly, I don't care.
     
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    I can't imagine that Gase, with all times his head is buried in those play cards, he notices the personnel on the field? Idk, maybe I'm missing something, but you would want your best players out there for most of the snaps?
     
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    Who knows what goes through his mind
     
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    Berrios mostly plays slot. When Crowder is on the field, Berrios isnt. I think I counted a handful of plays where they both were on the field.

    Vyncent coming back soon hopefully leads to more downfield opportunities.
     
  6. ColoradoContrails

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    Again, since Berrios is one of the best WRs - regardless of specific role - and Crowder is definitely the best WR at this moment, why can't Gase figure out a way to have BOTH on the field at the same time? This is a chronic problem with Gase, failing to use the players he actually has available to their best strengths.
     
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  7. BomberJet

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    I don't see how a receiver can be limited to paying only slot. You have to find a way to get your best players on the field. That's a luxury the Jets can't afford to overlook. Gase is the 'genius' that should figure this out.
     
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    Maybe that's the problem. You are assuming the jets ARE thinking.
     
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    Could you realistically put them both on the field at the same time regularly and expect to have success doing that? Crowder is good at what he does but is he going to have the speed to win regularly on deeper routes or the strength and leap to win on the outside regularly? I doubt it.
     
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    If you design plays for them both, then yes, they can both be on the field at the same time. Is that the ideal use of them? Of course not, but it's probably better than playing someone of lesser ability.
     
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    A player absolutely can be limited to the slot, especially when that player is Braxton Berrios at 5'8 and 160 lbs.

    He's a slot receiver and his not as good as the starting slot receiver Jamison Crowder, which is why he sat behind him. And he's absolutely not the "best player on the field" that's laughable
     
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  12. ColoradoContrails

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    He didn't say Berrios was the best player on the field, he said you should always try to have your best players on the field. Berrios is one of the best players remaining and able to suit up. So if he can't be used as anything other than a slot receiver, use Crowder differently. The point is that an "offensive genius" ought to be able to figure out some way to utilize the players he has to best advantage.
     
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    I know he's not as good as Crowder, but right this moment he is the #2 receiver. Didn't say he was the best, but there are no players above him other than Crowder. If you can play a 2 tight end formation, why not have 2 slot receivers? It doesn't have to be every down.
     
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    Crowder is a slot CB and should stay there. Would you put Edelman or Welker out wide? No. I think I saw somewhere that Berrios is capable of playing outside. The source may have been mistaken. He is definitely height challenged, but is quick and pretty fast. Teams have had short WRs before that weren't slot receivers. It certainly wouldn't be ideal, but with Herndon dropping almost everything that comes his way, Griffin not being much better, and Hogan unable to challenge the D deep, they have to try something different to open the offense up and keep the D from crowding the LOS.
     
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    I believe that Berrios is better than Hogan, and unlike Crowder, Berrios could challenge the D deep or like Smith, could be effective running slants and other routes designed to maximize YAC.
     
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    Mark Duper and Mark Clayton both 5' 9" (Marks Brothers) spring to mind but they did have a pretty good QB :)
     
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    Certainly he may be better there, but the point is that he's the second best receiver they have available and Gase needs to figure out how to get him on the field with Crowder. It's simply more proof that Gase is a terrible HC., not to mention FAR from being an "offensive genius".
     
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    you can and they did. 8 times. That's roughly 10% of the plays. They even threw the ball Berrios' way 3 times. He didn't catch any of them
     
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    If I remember correctly, that wasn't Berrios' fault. I think all three were bad throws by Sam and Berrios had no chance.
     
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    WOW! ten percent of the plays Gase figured out how to get his two best (available) receivers on the field at the same time!

    Offensive genius!
     
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