Jets reaching out to agents of Coaches for HC job....

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by RichardCaster, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. Gremlin

    Gremlin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2015
    Messages:
    955
    Likes Received:
    590
    Perhaps we should wait to see who Brady or Rodgers recomends and go from there.
     
    Jets69 and Andy_M like this.
  2. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    36,684
    Likes Received:
    30,193
    and

    I hear what you're saying, and there's some truth to it, but I disagree. This team has been obsessed with defense for decades. DCs who become HCs are going to focus on the defense primarily. They're going to want prime draft picks going to the D, and the best FA signings to the D. Just look at how many of our #1 draft picks have gone to the D, especially to the DL.In general they are also more conservative. They are more risk averse on offense and want to win with defense. They settle for FGs instead of going for TDs. We saw it under Rex, Mangini, Bowles, Herm, etc. ad nauseum.

    We need a HC that will focus on the offense primarily, to bring it into today's NFL. Our defense has been pretty good at times during this span, but aside from Bowles' 1st year with Fitz, Decker and Marshall, our offense has been abysmal and an embarrassment. We need a creative offensive mind that will build or adapt a system around the players we have, not some idealized system that requires perfect players and who tries to force square pegs into round holes.

    Of course, whomever the HC is has to pay attention to all three units on the team, and insist that they execute and be the best they can be. I think we need a younger HC who will be more aggressive on both offense and defense. Who will attack rather than read and react.

    The bolded above I can definitely get on board with. I still want to hire someone with an offensive background, but I want someone who will focus on the whole team and will hire an aggressive DC and excellent STs coach. Maybe they will retain Boyer.
     
  3. Andy_M

    Andy_M Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2008
    Messages:
    1,176
    Likes Received:
    460
    I'd settle for a coach who knows ANYTHING about football....at all....
     
    nevbeats319 and Lon Chaney like this.
  4. rammagen

    rammagen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,567
    Likes Received:
    720
    No it is the team that looks totally unprepared because gase is not doing his job......
     
  5. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Messages:
    12,631
    Likes Received:
    11,508
    Weird really as it happens all the time in football (soccer) managers/coaches get sacked all the time and others leave the teams they are at to go to a new team very frequently.
     
  6. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Messages:
    12,631
    Likes Received:
    11,508
    Is this really your take on the situation with Gase and us the fans or is it just an amusing skit?

    Humour on here is hard to detect sometimes.
     
    rammagen likes this.
  7. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2006
    Messages:
    5,726
    Likes Received:
    3,887
    Well, it looks like Gase will get the whole year. So Boyer will have to try his hand at coaching somewhere else. I think the only former special teams coach that is a head coach is John Harbaugh and Douglas has some history with him. You just don't see too many of them become head coaches.
     
  8. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2006
    Messages:
    5,726
    Likes Received:
    3,887
    Well, there was a brief period when Parcells was coaching that the Jets actually look like they were building something. Then the trust fund babies bought the team and Bellichek embarrassed them by resigning Day 1. Since then its been all downhill. So your math was incorrect.
     
  9. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2006
    Messages:
    5,726
    Likes Received:
    3,887
    I'm not a fan of his. Andy Reid calls the plays so how much of an influence is Eric B imparting on the KC offense.
     
    nevbeats319 likes this.
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2004
    Messages:
    36,670
    Likes Received:
    14,472
    It would certainly look better if the Jets waited until the bye week. There's still the problem of you gave Gase no talent and now you are holding him accountable - for having no talent.

    The Jets probably have the worst rep in the NFL right now for how they handle these types of decisions. They fired Maccagnan late, which means that Joe Douglas is on year 1.5 not year 2. They botched the Gase hiring by making it abundantly clear that Peyton Manning swayed managements decision and then somehow having that disastrous first press opportunity. They really shouldn't make things worse by botching the Gase firing if it is to come. They need to think this one out and do it in a way that is not just a fit of pique influenced heavily by a notoriously impatient fan base.

    Not that the fans shouldn't be impatient at this point. I've gone 50 years now waiting for a Super Bowl.
     
  11. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2003
    Messages:
    10,246
    Likes Received:
    2,459
    I find this rumor very hard to believe on many different levels.
     
    nevbeats319 likes this.
  12. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    4,391
    Likes Received:
    2,373
    Keep Gase!!!! We need 1 overall!!!! Then fire his ass and forget the last 2 years happened
     
    nevbeats319 likes this.
  13. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2005
    Messages:
    15,220
    Likes Received:
    6,086
    Both....I have to laugh to keep my mind straight. 1) "Our GMs have left the Jets with ZERO talent...we have the WORSE roster in the NFL". and 2) "Gase should be FIRED for failing to build a winning record and getting us to the playoffs!!!!"
     
  14. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2003
    Messages:
    9,332
    Likes Received:
    12,471
    My two cents on coaching.
    What we need above all is a HC that knows how to build a successful team understanding what it takes in today’s NFL to be successful. A coach that fully recognizes that this is an offensive minded game, and working hand in glove with the GM to provide a balanced approach to building the pieces. Above all he must have the leadership qualities to be creditable and respected by the players, creating opportunities and putting players in the best position to excel. A coach that knows how to select an OC and DC that can implement the vision, and has the massive set of balls to take on a team that has been completely void of adequate talent, personnel development and guidance, a team of perennial under achievers void of leadership and a winning culture.
    I couldn’t give a shit what his background is, defense or offense, or special teams......I have seen plenty of failures from all three, mostly because they were good on one side of the ball but shitty as head coaches.
    We need a HC that knows how to win and outsmart the competition. And there are very very few of those around unless we take a chance on an up and coming assistant coach or college coach. The biggest personnel move of all time by the GM is to hit on the selection of the right HC, and lure him to a team with such a shitty reputation and history.
    If JD nails that, he is a Jet for life, good drafts or bad.
     
    #114 LAJet, Sep 29, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2020
  15. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,970
    Likes Received:
    676
    Always wanted jim Harbaugh but we have The Great Joe Douglas for 6 years. No proven big time coach is going to come here and be under Douglas.

    - Perriman
    - Trading back in the 2nd round to get what felt like the left over WR that nobody wanted
    - Van Rotten
    - No weapons to help out Sam
    - Desir for 4 mil.
    - trading Jamal AFTER the draft

    fuuuuuuuuuuuuck you JOE D - this roster is your fault
     
  16. DefenseWinsChampionships

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2016
    Messages:
    5,393
    Likes Received:
    4,238
    I agree. JD is a failure. Everyone talks about him being a former o lineman and nobody understands he was a trash of an OLineman failure himself.
     
    nevbeats319 likes this.
  17. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2018
    Messages:
    7,235
    Likes Received:
    9,923
    Hmmmm............
     
  18. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,269
    Likes Received:
    3,362
    This is JD's George Young moment. Young was tasked with turning around a long time losing Giants franchise in the late 70's. He went on to hire HOF coach Parcells and draft legendary LT, Simms and Banks among others turning the Giants into one of the premier franchises in the league.

    Will JD get the right guy? This is his big moment.
     
    NCJetsfan and ColoradoContrails like this.
  19. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    36,684
    Likes Received:
    30,193
    If he has the power and freedom to do that, rather than C. Johnson.
     
    JetsNation06 likes this.
  20. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2003
    Messages:
    9,332
    Likes Received:
    12,471
    I think they have just re affirmed in my mind that we are on the right track with JD.
     

Share This Page