No, it isn't. It's only irrational. There is no "Jets curse." Bad decisions have happened and "bad luck" has happened because the Jets owners have been morons and they have made horrible hires. Douglas is the first legitimate, quality hire the Johnsons have made. The luck has already started changing and so have the bad decisions. You're right that there is no way to say that JD is a great GM yet, but he is going about things in the right way. He didn't panic about this year. He is building towards the future, and building a team for sustainable success. He made smart moves in FA. He got a haul for Adams when no one thought he would get much of anything. He traded down in the draft, and drafted great prospects. With the exception of maybe Morgan, there was no head scratching or "who?" following his draft. He seriously addressed the OL and added some potential pieces at WR, and on D. He added a great punter. He drafted our LT for the next 10-15 years with HOF potential.
I'm sorry that you have become so pessimistic. Douglas isn't going to turn Lawrence into Sanchez by year 3. To begin with that could never happen with Lawrence. Lawrence is a generational QB prospect and he will not only survive, but most likely thrive in any situation. Sanchez was a dumbass, wasn't that talented, was immature and not really a leader, and didn't have half the talent that Lawrence has. Comparing the two is absurd. If you really are more concerned about players that are still in college than you are the Jets, then I'd say it's time for you to stop being a Jets fan and pick another team or just be a fan of the NFL and certain players and have no team allegiance. Do what you want, but if that's what you do, I'll be sorry to see you go. Why stick around when you're obviously so miserable, have zero confidence/trust in Douglas, and have zero hope for the future of the team? Life's too short. If Gase isn't fired at all and I find out that that was Douglas' choice, I'm done with this team. If Gase is fired, and Douglas doesn't build around Sam or the new QB next year, I'm done with this team.
The Jets are garbage. That said, they are not the worst landing spot in the history of the league by a very very very large margin. Remember, players got drafted by the 1970's Bucs, early 1970's Oilers, 1980's Saints, 1980's Colts, Expansion Texans, and most years of the Lions, Cardinals, and new Browns.
"why are you a jets fan" bs--"i should leave the message board"--bs. You should leave cause you post too much and its taking over your real life--hows that? .
Eh I mean. There's been a lot of bad franchises in sports. Should players refuse to go there regardless of their draft position? Shouldn't everyone say they won't play for the Knicks? Or the Coyotes? Or the Pirates/Orioles?
You both make good points--I can't prove the NYJ harm athletes physically and mentally more than the other poor franchises in history
ive been very strong worded about Jamal & his BS. He was the anti-team player & worse portrayed himself as the opposite. A wolf in sheepskin. It’s hard to wrap head around how anyone can continue to support him & somehow think the Jets did him wrong.He was a manipulative,lying divisive punk
Ha! Another symptom of 2020, one party or the other must be 100% wrong, and the other must be 100% right. I'm crusty enough to say all parties can be 100% wrong, and they usually are.
NC: I don't mean nothing by this--i should have said something like: I am a jet fan and thats why I want intervention made into this organization by the NFL or NFLPA. Its gone past lovable losers, to pathetic losers, and now an actually dangerous environment for players. How about putting in Leveon while he's hurt? After not using him correctly for 1+ seasons? I think its time the NFL intervened in this franchise--they won't until the NFLPA does something to protect their players. I know this is not a common perspective but its mine now. The NFL can force a sale of the franchise or put it on probation or something if the data supports players are harmed mentally and physically.
It’s a team sport.You 100% cant have guys acting the way Jamal did even before the idea of a contract extension came up
To continue a theme, I agree 100%. I'm saying Jamal wasn't necessarily wrong to want out, but he went about it very much the wrong way, and JD wasn't wrong to send his malcontent ass on his way for a haul, but it set the table for the team to be the worst in the league right now. I don't see what people want to still be mad about, but folks sure are.
Yeah. I don't really feel some sort of ill will towards Adams. I just don't think those players are good for franchises and they're certainly not building blocks. He got the best situation for himself by going to a franchise with a great foundation and probably the most positive atmosphere in the NFL. But he's just a defensive version of NFL. And those players command the entire locker room to follow them - especially when there aren't established leaders. It just wasn't s good fit anymore.
I just hope, and, pray, probably for naught, that JD gets to choose the next HC. In reality, it’s probably not going to happen.
I think it’s super important to get a WR1 or at least a strong WR2 in free agency to prevent someone pulling an Eli.
I do sort of get where your coming from in that if I were an Generational talent with the best combined traits of Marino, Mahomes, Jackson, Manning and Brady and I found myself with the Bronco's (who I detest) looking to lock me up for 5 years + maybe 3 more on the Frnachise tag then I'd be pretty depressed. If it were pre-2010 then I'd at least get $50-80Million out of it rather then the $30M that Baker got but I'd take the $30M and report if I had no more college eligibility left.
It's ok. I'm genuinely sorry that any Jets fan gets to this point. I can understand it, but I hate it. Sorry that you took offense. I was trying to be supportive and helpful. I'm sure that Covid isn't helping any of our moods and dispositions. The NFL isn't going to intervene. If they were, they'd have shut this franchise down years ago. I'd love it if they stepped in and forced the Johnsons to sell for the good of the league, but they won't.
I've been thinking the same thing. Not only because this franchise is such a disaster, you'd have to have rocks in your head to want to start your career here ... but also because the kid is a southern, religious Christian to the 10th power. Maybe NYC isn't the best fit for him ... or where he wants to raise a family. I think it's highly unlikely that he's our QB in 2021.
would be bettter to say if we got the #1 pick "you wouldn't be surprsied if he did an Eli" rather than "he should" do one I mean, I agree, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did that - it would be 100% the Jetsy thing to happen, but I wouldn't want it to happen nor do I think it should happen (and I am as negative as it gets)
Here's the list of potential FA WRs in 2021: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/wide-receiver/ Many, if not most, of these will never see FA. The only one older than 27 that I'd really want on that list is Allen Robinson, but I doubt that he'll be available. I might sign one of the other "older" WRs to a one-year deal, but wouldn't pay huge bucks to any of those older guys. The other tier one WRs who could be available are Chris Godwin and JuJu Smith-Schuster. I'd love to see JD sign one of them. As a tier two or three Allen Lazard of GB looked pretty good on Sunday night. If Perriman winds up having a good year, I'd potentially bring him back. Corey Davis and Willie Snead are a couple of other possibilities. Do you see any that you'd want JD to sign?
