That wasn't the argument Bro Montana. The argument was the best we've seen which is extremely sad for Jets fans post-2000.
Josh Allen would look like $hit on this team. Darnold would look more than capable on the Bills, much more talent on offense and defense, and a better head coach. Allens miscues are masked due to the talent around him on both offense and defense.
Johnson will rationalize Gase's performance away as he has before. Heck, we did improve this week. We scored a touchdown in the first half. That's 1 more point than the previous two first halves combined. Looks like progress to me.
The thing you lose if you fire Gase is credibility in the search to come. There is nobody you'd want to hire as HC right now who doesn't see the Jets roster as a stinky slow-burning dumpster fire. If you fire Gase before the end of the season the guys who might be willing to come in and try to put out the fire have to wonder exactly how much time they'd have to get the job done. Nobody but nobody is looking to take a job that might just be two seasons with a little bad luck. That's what most of these people would consider their likely window of opportunity assuming Gase didn't even get a full two seasons to put out the stinky slow-burning dumpster fire he inherited at the beginning of last season. So the level-headed credible candidates are probably gone at the start before you even start searching. That leaves two other potential candidate pools. First you have the bonafide miracle workers who might be willing to come in for a slash and burn rebuild. These guys are well known and well-respected. They've chosen to engineer their escape from bad situations in the past avoiding embarrassing firings. They've won a Super Bowl in the past which gives them instant credibility with the media and they have media manipulation strategies that largely let them control even an out of control media market like the tristate. There are two of these guys alive today. Bill Parcells is 79 and happily retired. Dick Vermeil is 83 and happily retired. Ok, so that pool is dried up. The other candidate pool is what I would call the typical Jets HC candidate pool. They're coordinators of various types who have never been a HC. They're recently fired HC's, who were fired, well, uh, most likely for a reason. They're hot shot college coaches who do their business in places where newspapers don't even exist and the most important traffic is fly over - high overhead. All 3 of these groups of people have maybe got a two year ceiling tops in a chaotic media market like the tristate market. You have to have pool #1, the credible candidate pool, available or you wind up with Herm Edwards, Eric Mangini, Rex Ryan, Todd Bowles, and yes, Adam Gase as your top choices. By now we should know that unless we can find a miracle worker we really need somebody who clearly is the best candidate for the job. Otherwise we're just going to repeat the cycle.
how bad was the post game presser? there were other games on so i didnt bother to turn on sny. that and no ray lucas, he would have gotten me over there to listen to him go bananas.
I don't necessarily agree with that though. There are 32 NFL jobs and how many vacancies at the end of this year? 5-6 assuming it's a typical offseason? Someone will come here. We'll be competing with the Lions, Falcons, Jaguars, Broncos, maybe the Bengals, maybe the Texans. We might have the worst situation, but do you really think firing Gase is going to convince someone like the Ravens DC to not come here? Or Daboll? Or maybe a college head coach from a 'smaller' program like David Shaw? What miracle worker do you think we're turning away by firing Gase in October?
Gase was a lame duck coach from day 1 this year... he was a terrible hire Jets better no F this up and get 1 overall to lure a new coach with all the draft capital
Give Rex a call! Play like a jet is getting bad rep. Lol. At least we would have passion. This blog continuously bashes old regimes, we are not elite, but we have had some good teams, good coaches, and GMs. Bashing Tanny, he was above average GM,. Not helping. But when we fail, we fail bad!!! Macc was bad, bash him! There is good reason. And Bowles/Gase/Macc era is arguably the worst in jet history, I hate to see a completely uncompetitive team on Sunday, if folks think we suck cause our talented QB did not play well, I have underestimated my fellow jets fans intelligence. This is bigger than our QB! Not sure why we are calling for Darnold head. We need to change the leadership, for the to trend the right direction. Drafting Lawrence not going to help, losing mindset and culture. He will adapt it when coming here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
At least he did something right. Better than anything any of his successors, including Douglas, have done up to this point.
I get what you're trying to convey but I think that considering this franchise has been a dumpster fire for the better part of a decade the timing of firing Gase wouldn't really sway any potential coach from considering the team. Unfortunately there is no parcells walking through that door and I really have very little confidence that they will get this right next time anyway but there's gotta be something better than watching a young qb regress in a boring, dull, lifeless offense for the next 3 months regardless of the talent level.
Is there anyone, anywhere who doesn't see the Jets as a stinky slow-burning dumpster fire? If you fire Gase before the end of the season you begin immediately to put out that fire even if you're doing nothing more than taking the ignition source away. You don't hire a guy who is going to wonder how long he has, you hire a guy who comes in looking to turn that dumpster upside down because he knows how to get rid of the stench and is convinced he's the only guy who's prepared to do it. Why would even the Johnsons hire a guy who comes in second guessing himself? Don't ask me to name names, that's the job of Joe Douglas.
If the Johnsons are looking for a consultant, Damien Woody's a better idea than any of the other consultants, considering he actually cares about the Jets.
Give it to BJC and see if Darnold can make progress. Gase is like a cancer that needs to be removed. Hey Johnson’s, grow a pair of balls!
Comparing gase with Rex and herm, just an insult! They had winning seasons for jets. Even Mangini was last ok with winning season. We bash all of our former coaches on here even if they won some. I find it ridiculous. We had some good seasons which I enjoyed as fan. But now everyone is crap, cmon guys our history is what it is, but bashing the good times is such a drag, considering our team is pitiful right now. We need to bring football guy that wants to have a challenge. And don’t wait! Sooner the better gase had to go ASAP, anyone will suffice for now, the culture now is toxic, we are ruining our players!!!. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The thing is Br4d, if you allow Gase to finish the season, it will REALLY showcase how bad the talent is on the team, and then who in their right mind would want to come here? The hard truth is that the longer Gase remains, the worse things will get, and look how bad they already are.
