I think JD was targeting Michael Pittman. That was projected a lot, especially since Sam and Pittman both came from USC, and I think played together. JD had a chance to take Claypool in the 2nd round and passed, which says to me either that he didn't like Claypool, didn't think WR was that big of a need, or was happy to settle for Jefferson or Mims. I liked Claypool almost as well as Pittman and would have been very happy with him. Mims was actually my 3rd choice of those three, but he was hands down the best WR prospect left at the Jets pick after they traded down.
I think Mims was the last guy Joe D. wanted to be there. Because he's not going to come in and catch slants, quick stops, etc. early on in the season. He has to be the home run threat because he's too raw. He still can be a good player though. He's physical and has good hands. For the record, I think Claypool is an even less refined route runner. But he reminds me exactly of Vincent Jackson. Needs zero separation against a 5'11" corner, he's just always going to win the matchup because he's a big boy.
I remember on draft day screaming, why we wouldn’t take Godwin with that pick!!! He had just went off in bowl game! Seemed obvious at the time. And turned out to be best move in hindsight. Boggles my mind still today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This doesn’t make sense. Pittman went way before the Jets 2nd round pick. We’re talking about who he targeted when he traded back. Douglas had a chance to take Claypool, Mims, or Jefferson with the 2nd before he traded back. Knowing all 3 were there and likely one would remain indicates he valued them all pretty closely, I don’t think it has anything with not valuing the receiver position.
Not expecting anything from Mims. He got hurt the very first practice. That was a month ago so he's got tons of learning and with a shorten preseason he might go on IR to begin the season. If he were a veteran we would be better off but our WR corp looks like junk right now.
I watched a lot of his film from Baylor and i don't think the curve will be as bad. Guy is a hell of an athlete and "pro ready" the bigger issue with the lost reps will be getting into a groove with Sam. I think a week or two of practice and maybe a little extra time put in and he will be fine.
It makes total sense. No, we weren't talking about who he targeted when he traded back. Maybe you were, but Jonathan_Vilma said that he thought that JD was targeting Jefferson all along. I disagree with that, and that's why I responded as I did. I think Pittman was the WR JD was hoping to draft. After Pittman went at the top of the 2nd round, then obviously, JD had to re-focus on another WR. I agree that he figured that one of Claypool, Mims or Jefferson would be there after the trade down. Even though it worked out, I still think it was too risky a move when we were in desperate need of a quality WR. He was greedy and he got lucky. The fact that he was willing to risk losing all three, says to me that he doesn't value the WR position as he should or is unrealistic about the quality of the Jets' WR corps.
If you're right, then JD definitely goes down a notch or two in my estimation. Mims was a much better prospect than Claypool. He is a better route runner, is more polished and is faster. I liked Claypool better because I had seen Mims play a few (2-3) times, and in every game I saw, he disappeared for stretches. That made me think he was a little soft. Even though Mims is faster, I liked Claypool's toughness and greater height. IMO JD didn't need to be taking a WR who had already reached his limited ceiling no matter how polished he might be.
I think JD was comfortable with any of the remaining, or he would not have traded down. With Pittman gone maybe he did not see marked difference in the remaining and grabbed chance to get more picks, and still get good WR. But, personally I think they were targeting v. Jefferson when they traded down. But like I say we’re comfortable with the others as good players. Could really not go wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
They all look pro ready in college. I don't know I've been beaten down to a pulp being a Jets fan. Here's hoping you're right and things start to change for us.
What a stupid draft by Maccagnan. Selects FOUR DBs and 3 receivers in the same draft, but zero offensive linemen and defensive linemen. I saw MacCagnan on TV during that draft crowing about "that receiver we just took from California" (Chad Hansen, 4th round). Hansen was such a great choice MacCagnan couldn't even remember his name shortly after drafting him.
IMO - i trust the scouting process the Steelers do on WRS - they hit on them always. In my books, they passed on Mims for Claypool because frankly they have a pedigree and proven track record on drafting good WR prospects. The Jets on the other hand might be the worst in the NFL. They haven't drafted a decent WR since 2004...i was in High School. It just bothers me how much Mims was passed up and on draft day everyone is joyful that this guy is inserted into the starting lineup by default because the WRs on the roster equals running ass juice. The trade downs didn't even amount to much he should have just took the best WR at the original spot instead of getting cute. Mims just better be at least a good #2 receiver forget about him being a #1 LMAO. my rant is done
I hear you loud and clear but Mims feels different. Man playing against boys type feeling. Fingers crossed this is all over caution and he's good to go week 1.
Claypool is an interesting pick for them. He doesn't fit the way they usually draft receivers (shorter receivers with quick feet and insane stop and go abilities - see Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders). They don't always hit on receivers either. Diontae Johnson and James Washington have both been OK. Outside of that they missed on Sammie Coates, Martavis Bryant, Markus Wheaton, Limas Sweet, etc. They do keep firing though - something we don't do.
I remember i wanted the Jets to draft Limas Sweed back in 08 - with the Dustin Keller pick LOL - Limas was a disaster for them
