Agreed. Maybe a NBA like situation where you can offer larger deals to players retained as opposed to just allowing players to freely move from team to team for the same or more money Just floating an idea, dont know if it makes total sense
remember when the Jets signed Chad to a huge contract after he started 6 games in 2002? they were so cash strapped against the cap that they lost 3 OL starters in the offseason.... like buying a corvette and driving with no insurance becasue you spent all your money on the car.....
Exactly. The Jets also invested a mid-range contract in Mark Sanchez at $14M a year or so during the period all the vets were dropping out. They signed Tim Tebow the next year in desperation because it was clear the team was in imminent collapse mode. Good teams aren't about paying their players. They're about winning. Sometimes they get caught after the fact and have to pay their players and then the decline is usually swift and punishing.
Was that the year that Snyder thought he outfoxed the Jets and the NFL by overpaying by a wide margin for the players he "stole"? If so I think the Jets had the money to sign those players to the contracts they thought they deserved and Snyder outfoxed himself by offering stupid money and contracts to players that weren't worth their deals
maybe you are right about synder. but the jets said at that time they could not match snyder's offers. but, the colts had peyton manning signed to an absurdly high cap figure, and once he was injured the team lost all the games he was out. almost had the same thing happen again to them when andrew luck was out. had to tradea starter at WR to the patriots to get back a backup QB , Brisset.
Some great points brought up about not tying up a lot of cap space on one player. The question then is how can great players be retained without paying them big money? Elite players don't grow on trees, so just letting them walk doesn't make sense. Trading them for a haul of picks whenever one is about to get paid is risky because even the best teams will miss in the draft.
fair question. with a $200 million cap, how does $20 million a year for just one player on a 53 man roster count as underpaid? especially since every team in the league has the same restriction? even if you pay a couple of players the $20 million each, you still have cap room left over for the rest of the roster. you can pay more than one player the max amount, although you would be, in my opinion, just shooting yourself in the foot.
Build a team that everybody wants to play for. It's the only way around the trap long term. The Jets pay *very* heavily for being the Jets.
that means doing a very poor job of drafting , especially in rounds 2-4. they can take a flyer on " potential " in rounds 6 and 7. the developmental qb, punter, kicker, positon players with character issues or injury histories. not in rounds 1-4!
I don't know that either team could have won the Superbowl without them. Vinny threw a lot of interceptions the year after we lost Keyshawn. We barely missed the playoffs. At the end of the season our head coach quit the team and Bill Parcells left. If Key were there to fight for those catches and we make the playoffs perhaps we don't end up giving the Patriots half of the defensive starters they needed to get that first SB win the following year when Herm switched to a cover who defense.
If you have built a great team, with the exception of the QB, almost any other single player can be replaced, maybe even a couple of players, so that if they demand too much money, beyond what the cap space allows, you trade them or let them walk. It's a shame, but that's how the NFL has built its salary and cap structure. Part of this was to hold down player salaries, but also to try and maintain competitiveness by making it harder to build and keep dynasties. Of course dynasties can still be built - Patriots - but it's much harder (and probably requires cheating and finding loopholes to enable you pay your stars enough to keep them). It's a shame the players haven't been able to build a stronger union to demand more of a salary structure like MLB so the players can get paid better. Honestly, if you're a great multi-sport athlete, the worst thing financially is to play football.
MLB made a huge mistake allowing FA to exist without a cap. It works to the detriment of the league. The beauty of football and what makes it so strong is the revenue sharing part of the equation that forces teams to spend, keeps team from becoming free spenders like the yankees, sox and dodgers. Every team makes money in the NFL and it creates parody and competitiveness that MLB doesn't come close to
I disagree. While the Yankees, Red Sox, and Dodgers are perennial winners, other teams compete every year and that group changes, testimony to the competitiveness. The NFL is certainly not hurting for money. In what other league does a perennial loser like the Jets carry a franchise value of over a billion dollars? The owners can certainly afford to share the revenue with the players who make it all possible, but they don't have to because the player's union is so weak.
You can disagree if you want but MLB teams that dont make money, they NFL has an entire league that makes money. They have 5 huge TV deals with ESPN, ABC, NBC, FOX & CBS. Because the league is more balanced and competitive. The Red Sox were not perennial winners until they emulated the Yankees. The Dodgers haven't been winning until new ownership outspent the Yankees. Teams that can compete without spending are few and far between. The crazy part is MLB teams that win aren't guaranteed to make money. I have no idea what you mean about owners dot have to share revenue with players when there is a near 50/50 split of the leagues revenue. Somewhere close to 14 billion. Its always nice to take the side of players but Im not seeing how a 50/50 is a problem compared to MLB when the MLB doesnt come close to that number By any measure, the NFL is the most successful American sports league in history. For all the talk of North America’s “Big Three” sports (or for hockey fans, Big Four), the reality is that there’s pro football, and then there’s everything else.
This is only at the moment. It's a twenty year slice in time. Baseball was #1 for 60+ years before that with both equal for about 10 years from 1990-2000. The NBA is next. It's going to take the reins from the NFL very shortly. The medical issues around football almost guarantee that.
So the Patriots could not have won a SB without signing Revis? Really? Keyshawn wasn't the reason the Bucs won the SB. In fact they probably would have repeated at some point with that defense if they just used the 2 #1 picks they spent in the trade to take good players. Not saying Keyshawn wasn't a good receiver but he had 76 catches and 5 TD passes in 2002. He caught 53.5% of the passes thrown his way, by far the lowest percentage on that team and one of the lowest percentages of his career.
I'm surprised they didn't move to implement Bird Rules in this CBA. If not for all players, just for quarterbacks. They really should make them exempt from the cap or create a separate cap for quarterbacks. As much as players of other positions would bitch and moan during the CBA negotiations, it'd really open up more of the cap share for them. It would be difficult if it was allowed for every position. It works in the NBA as there are much fewer players and it's really just designed for the upper echelon players. I think some form of it could be adapted for the NFL though.
Why would NFL owners agree to make less money? I can only see a separate cap for QB's if the owners could reduce the cap for everyone else. Hard to see the players union accepting that. I could see the Union and owners agreeing to it if the owners share of the cap was reduced as part of the deal and the additional percentage went to the rest of the players to make up the difference. The NBA owners share more of the total revenue with the players. NFL owners have fought for every dime of shared revenue tooth and nail. Hard to see them doing this without the players giving up money.
