It always seems that once they get this big payday, the play on the field drops off a similar amount. They go from sugar to shit on the way to the bank it seems. If Adams takes the Bell route, he needs to be moved before the draft, not after for future considerations.
The 5th year option will likely pay $11-12M, the franchise tag probably $12M or more. If they extend Adams now the 5th year option stays in place, I think, so you pay a signing bonus to bring this year up and maybe a roster bonus of $3M to bring next year up, then 3 more years at $15M or so, with an out that wouldn't hurt the team. That would mean bringing this years cap hit up a bit but next season and the following season would only be about $3M more each season than if he played through the 5th year option and the tag. By the time you get to the new years of the contract the salary for a top safety is likely more than $15M a year so if he kept his playing level up you get him at a bargain. You have to play some players, why wouldn't you want to keep one of the best at the position on your team?
I don't think he literally meant pay Jamal $10 mil more than the current highest paid safety... I was assuming that was a figure of speech to emphasize how valuable he is.
Nonsense, if you cant pay Jamal and field a good D youre either an incompetent or full of shit. More excuses to get rid of Jamal.
You can recognize a strong link who needs to get paid very well by the performance of the players around him and the team's overall performance and then finally by the performance of the player himself. Ray Lewis was a strong link. Jamal Adams is not. He's a strong player but as he points out frequently he's losing a lot of games with the Jets. If he was at the center of a playoff team things would be different but until the Jets get there he's just another strong player *not* a player you build a championship team around. If you look at the forest from 10,000 feet it is so much clearer than when you're staring at a tree trunk right in front of you. That tree may be big and strong and healthy but if the forest is rotting, well it could be any old tree and not make much of a difference to the overall view. Good teams have the problem that they sometimes need to let great players go for the overall good of the locker room and the roster. Bad teams that have somebody chirping all the time? Well that should be an easy call.
Ray Lewis went 16-31-1 in his first three years with the Ravens. They never had a defense rank in the top 15 in yards or points allowed. In 1998, in the midst of the Ravens third straight losing season, Lewis signed an extension that made him the highest paid ILB in the league. The Ravens then built a championship team around him. Not sure that analogy was the strongest.
Ray Lewis had 184 tackles his second season at the age of 22. Nobody has had more since in a season and nobody was more of a glue piece than Lewis at that point. The Ravens had a strong defense developing around him and he was clearly the linchpin. The Jets do not have a strong defense developing. They barely have any name recognition players at all. It's not like signing Adams to a long term deal cinches anything for the team. Lewis was a lockdown player towards a great defense. Adams is just a great player often playing in a vacuum.
But I just told you that the Ravens never had a top 15 ranked defense in those first three years where they also went 16-31-1. There was nothing strong whatsoever around him. Marcus Maye, Brian Poole, CJ Mosley are all above average to highly above average players. Quinnen Williams was highly touted coming out of school and there's still no reason to think he can't develop. We already had one of the best run defenses in the league. 7th in points allowed, 16th in yards allowed (which is the highest the Ravens D ranked in those first three years). You could argue the Jets defense is stronger than the Ravens was when they extended Lewis three years into his career at age 24 coming off two and a half losing seasons. Sound familiar?
Dear Dallas. Please offer us a 1st and a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year and save us from this immature loud mouth. Thanks. Brook!
Im not saying pay him $25 a year and give him the keys to the house. Jamal adams with Sam darnold are the two best things about this franchise right now. We've been bad for a long time and i just dont want us to lose our only proven All Pro for more lottery picks. If however, we were a 10-12 win team with plenty of talent and we were in a position that we would not be able to pay everyone. Then i would probably be open to the option of trading him. We have a gamechanger, lets keep him until we have more talent. Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk
Adams is just going to have to be patient. He's under contract for two more years. He's a great player (not Ed Reed, but still a top player who is still on the rise) but the bottom line is right now, at this very second the draft takes priority, not extending Jamal Adams. We're not shopping the guy, of course we have to listen to any offers just because what if someone gets stupid and gives us a massive haul, we may have to take it. But that's not very likely. He's a bit immature and can be a loudmouth. Bit of a drama queen...but he has to understand WE'LL GET TO HIM. Douglas has stated he wants Adams to be a Jet for life. But right now the draft and other offseason player personnel stuff comes first (plus we're in the midst of this cornavirus, who knows what the future holds)
Says the guy who thinks we should pay him 25 million per. We should keep him under his current contract and if somebody wants to give us a haul of picks let them pay him.
We can keep him for another 3 years. We have an option on him and we can franchise tag him twice. The smart move for both parties is to get an extension now that works for Jamal and the Jets long term salary cap needs. Unless of course someone offers us a trade that's simply too good to pass up or Jamal really doesn't want to be here and work out a deal that both parties can live with. It's a dance and both partners have to want to dance together. I would like to see him with a healthy Mosley and an improved secondary. I think with a better team around him he's going to be even more effective. If he really doesn't want to be here without a cap killing deal I'm still rooting for the laundry with or without him.
That's simply not true. A healthy Mosley and another player in the secondary either a late cut or through the draft and the Jets could have a very good D. Adams shouldn't be grossly overpaid but he shouldn't be discounted either. He's a terrific player.
He is a terrific player. He's just incentivised wrong right now and there's no way to change that. He wants to be the most highly paid safety in the game and you don't win with the most highly paid safety in the game very often. There's no reason to believe the Jets can flip that inconvenient fact around.
If JD can’t build a championship level team while paying the heart and soul of the team then JD is not what he is being built up as. What we need most is a GM that can build a championship level team while keeping our homegrown talent. It’s hilarious to me to hear fans constantly complain about the lack of homegrown talent but constantly want to trade the homegrown talent when it’s time for them to be paid.
What we need most is our best player to not be a CB or Safety. I love Adams, he's a hell of a player and really think he is a "winning" type of player. With that said though if the Cowboys offer up a haul they can have him. This is the draft of drafts to stock up on talent and if this team ever does amass any real talent, you can't sign everyone with your safety making what he wants.
