Regarding your OPNION, hey, we're all entitled to one. Take a look below that further supports what a MAN Balckman was. You know... Since you watch a lot of tape... 2010 as a SOPHMORE- 111 Receptions for 1,782 and 20 Touchdowns 2011 as a Junior- 122 Receptions for 1,522 yards and 18 touchdowns Cee-Dee (Who I like very much) 65 for 1,158 & 11 Touchdowns as a sophomore 62 for 1,327 & 14 Touchdowns as a Junior Jeudy 68 for 1,315 & 14 as a Sophomore 77 for 1,163 & 10 as a Junior So as a self proclaimed "on tape" guy, I'd think you saw a lot more of Blackman than the other two...There haven't been many more prolific receivers in all of college football then Justin Blackman. PERIOD
I'm aware of how good Blackmon was at OK State. If you're going by college numbers of course he dwarfs the other guys but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean as a prospect and how they project to the next level. I searched "justin blackmon scouting report" and this was from the very first profile, and it's exactly what I'm saying: WEAKNESSES Blackmon is not as quick off the ball as his athletic ability would suggest. He has good top-end speed and acceleration in the open field, but struggles to burst enough in short areas to separate. He has such an elongated stride as a runner that he has difficulties running sharp routes. Much of his production comes from being a playmaker at the point of the catch and afterwards; he doesn't get himself open through route running. As a blocker, he is an all-or-nothing type who can't recover once whiffing on a block. He will need a lot of work on his technique in this area. Blackmon's stride could stand to be his biggest problem at the next level, as it could be difficult to get open against premier athletes with the amount of gathering and stuttering it takes in his footwork to change directions. None of that describes Lamb or Jeudy and those are things you look for in a college WR when trying to figure out how they will project as a pro.
I say it because of how I believe the OT’s will impact day 1 and WR’s will impact day one, how many of each there are, and which teams pick before the Jets. I know some feel differently, but I am hesitant on Mekhi Becton. I feel he is good but a major combine riser. I feel that there are 3 day 1 impact tackles. I think that the best 3 tackles will go before the Jets pick. I think at least 1 of not more of the top 3 WR will be available. I think when you can have elite talent, you take it. I’m not basing it on greater need, but on greater day 1 impact.
David Terrell is such an example regarding the draft being a crapshoot. I watched him at Michigan, he was awesome. I thought he was gonna be a super Pro and I was wrong.
I want Jeudy. I can just imagine Darnold to Jeudy for the next decade. Similar to a Montana to Rice. The potential is definitely there. However, Sam needs to be protected. So it is a tough decision for Joe Douglas.
As for drop off of talent from round 1 to round 2, of course that’s the case. What is round 2 supposed to be an increase in talent?
There was an article how the Jets should draft Ruggs. I don’t know how you draft him over Lamb or Jeudy.
Hopkins to me has been the best receiver in the league all things considered for years. Hands, route-running, route tree, everything. This past year he dipped but he's been so damn good, and I think Lamb is the next Hopkins.
That’s sort of My point, except I would take any of the 3 gladly. I like Ruggs’ work ethic, I think the dude will be legendary personally. We shall see.
Oh yea the point I forgot to add before professing my man love for Hopkins was "that's a problem I'd love to have".
This is a great topic. I think there is a drop-off towards end of RD 2 ... but there are sleepers and contributors. Tyler Johnson could be available in RD3, but you just don't know if he will be available. If I am the Jets, no way am I going into my 2nd 3rd round pick with no drafted receivers. I think they need to get one right away in RD2.
Who are your 3 OT's that you would take? I've been hearing there are 4 top guys, curious as to which one you would pass up on.
The biggest question facing a team selecting a WR is what will suit your scheme and QB skill set? To me there are groups, but among groups there is little ability to rank. It’s more like “My offense values this skill more than this skill.”
That's why I think we'd go Lamb. Gase loves him some 3 yard passes and forcing the WR to do all the work after. You'd hope he wouldn't piss away Ruggs on that kind of stuff and Jeudy just isn't that guy.
It seems the consensus is that Lamb, Jeudy and Ruggs are that first tier--but we should all know by now that the way reality plays out that things always change-- Injuries, supporting cast, coaching and system all play a role in how these prospects project at the next level. Based on our current needs and value: -Thomas, Becton, Wirfs or Wills probably need to be the pick -If somehow by a miracle Simmons or Okudah drop--those guys are a no brainer -If none of those options are on the table, we should look to trade back and accumulate picks -If we can't trade back and those options are off the table, you need to go best WR available Going for another OT after that first tier is a drop off and would be a bad value at 11, no pass rusher is a value at 11 after Young, same thing for corner (some might argue Henderson I dont see it) It does seem we always have the worst draft positioning for every year--Jets luck I guess. Having the 3rd overall pick this year would have been amazing. Even the 6th pick would have been great. Last year, there was a huge drop off after Bosa and we settled for Quinnen, who is probably gone after his rookie contract. Not a believer. Smart move is to trade down when in doubt--I think Joe D gets that.
Yeah, if the Jets draft Lamb or Jeudy I don't think any fans would complain. Drafting Ruggs with the other 2 on the board would slightly disappoint me, but I know Ruggs is also great and would trust Douglas' evaluation of him in our offense.
I think if Wirfs or Thomas are there, I’d like to take them. Wills would be a tough internal debate for me, but he’s a contender. Becton I’m hesitant with. I think he’s a combine riser, which means his effectiveness is more of a projection than the other guys, and I also worry about a man that big being able to stay healthy long term. So my tackles are: Thomas/Wirfs Wills Becton To be honest I like Josh Jones a lot as well.
Facepalm. Thanks. I am asking if the drop off in talent from rounds 1 to 2 is enough to warrant trading up, or even perhaps to take a WR in Round 1 instead of an OT. Basically I wanted to hear from people who watch a lot of college ball and are very familiar with all these WR's how they think the 2nd round crop of talent compares to the 1st round. Did I spell that out enough for you?
