Jets Re-Sign Neville Hewitt

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  1. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    1 Year $2 million.
     
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    chandler Well-Known Member

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    cool!

    these are exactly the kind of signings I'm hoping for. Surprised he was that cheap and deal only 1 year but...
     
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    Excellent! Maybe this means that Willliamson is about to get traded to make cap space to acquire Ngakoue. Maybe Jacksonville would even take Williamson and our 2nd round pick for Ngakoue.
     
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    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    The Jags already have Myles Jack and Joe Schoebert, so I’m not sure they’d be that interested in Williamson. I have to admit, I’m not sure I want to give up draft capital for Ngakoue, I’d rather use it in the actual draft.
     
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  5. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    No thnx.

    Sign Clowney as JD's trying to do who's in his prime years and very athletic and keep our draft capital for WR and O-Line in a deep O-Line and WR draft class.

    Williamson isn't going anywhere as he's perfect alongside of Mosley.

    Mosley/Williamson is going to become an awesome ILB duo come 2020.

    I know you didn't watch any of the games on TV because you live in N.C and you don't watch our Jet players play games on TV but Avery Williamson was an absolute animal and an all around beast for us in 2018 as a 1st year Jet, in case you missed it.

    You can never have enough talent and depth at Linebacker and Williamson is a keeper behind Quinnen Williams and alongside C.J Mosley especially with Clowney on the outside.

    C.J Mosley and Avery Williamson will dominate the middle while Clowney/Adams/Quinnen all attack the QB with Marcus Maye playing deep center field.
     
  6. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Where does this deep love for Avery Williamson come from?
     
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    You're right. It was just a quick thought. Obviously, I didn't check their roster.

    I'd rather use the draft capital in the draft too, but can see why posters covet adding him to the Jets. I'm not sure that we could add two players in the draft that together would equal the impact of Ngakoue. If they both would have been offensive picks, then perhaps they could. If Douglas opts to add Ngakoue, I won't complain. It will be exciting.
     
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    This guy is talented. That is part of the Jets’ problem as an organization. It seems like we acquire talented pieces of the puzzle from time to time but lose or get rid of them before the whole picture can be recognized. Losing Robby and Jordan would be a prime example of that.
     
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    I don’t think he’s a bad player, but he’s certainly not a game changer for the defense. The Jets were a top run defense team last year, without Williamson or Mosley. With Mosley back as well, I just don’t feel Williamson’s main skill of run defense is particularly worth $6.5 million. Of course it depends, on if we need the room. I tend to think he’s a guy who gets traded or cut to make room for a Jamal/Maye extension.
     
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    He’s a stud LB imo, and there’s no way I’d let him go.
    Our fill in LBs performed admirably but really just weren’t up to the task.

    I give Gregg Williams a lot of credit for essentially making things work with no LBs or CBs. I’d like to see what he can do with good players at those positions.
     
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    Did you not watch him as a 1st year Jet of 2018? He was awesome for us.

    2018: 16 starts. 120 combined total tackles consisting of 80.0 solo tackles (6.0 for loss behind the line of scrimmage). 3.0 sacks (4.0 QB hits). 2 Fumbles Forced. 1 Fumble Recovery and 1 Interception.

    He was an absolute beast as a 1st year Jet and also dominated for 3-4 years with Tennessee before arriving as well.

    You put an animal in Avery Williamson alongside of another animal in C.J Mosley @ ILB and the middle of our defense is going to become a brick wall behind Quinnen Williams.
     
  12. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    First of all, the Jets were not good in 2018. He is a good player, but certainly not an “absolute beast”. I would not even consider him to be a top 10 player at his position that year. How many teams have won championships with a major investment at both inside linebacker positions in the last 20 years? I have nothing against the player but you seem to think he’s some kind of game wrecker, which is far from realistic. I’d be happy that he’s on the team, except that Mosley makes him unnecessary.
    In 2018,
    Luke Kuechly, Leighton Vander Esch, CJ Mosley,
    Bobby Wagner, Darius Leonard, Eric Kendricks, DeMario Davis, Benardrick McKinney, Jaylon Smith, Telvin Smith...all were at least as good players if not better, and the list could go on. I would much rather have another CB for the $6.5 million he costs us. Run centric ILB is just not that important anymore, plus we have one that’s better.
     
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    Hewitt is a depth player and nothing more. Williamson should be a last resort cut or restructure.
     
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    A second year option at like 5 million would have been nice and Neville would sign it for a couple hundred thousand--don't get why the FO doesn't utilize this option. I thought Neville was flashing late last season and he could continue to develop.
     
  15. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    The middle of that Ravens defense with both Ray Lewis and Bart Scott @ ILB behind a younger Ngata during Bart Scott's last 3 Baltimore years of 2006-2007-2008 weren't able to result in a SB but the middle of their Defense was a brick wall.

    C.J Mosley may not be Ray Lewis (not many are as only Patrick Willis was the closest thing I've seen to #52) but I'm just anxious and excited to see a healthy MLB duo of C.J Mosley and Avery Williamson Linebacking behind Quinnen Williams within a Gregg Williams Defense.

    As far as Super Bowls go with a great 1-2 punch @ MLB I instantly think of the San Francisco 49ers. Came close and lost by 3 points to Baltimore. 2012-2013 season. Patrick Willis/NaVorro Bowman. Probably the greatest ILB duo I've seen and ashame injuries ruined it.

    Not an ILB duo but in regards to MLB talk it still bothers me to this day: who knows what could've happened during our 1998 run under Bill Parcells especially once on the road and up against an Elway/TD & Denver Broncos driven offense behind a nasty O-Line come our AFC Championship Game...

    If only our (should've been) starting MLB in Marvin Jones didn't miss that entire 1998 season due to an injury after coming off of a 127 tackle and 3.0 sack performance just the year before of 1997 during our 1-15 to 9-7 turn around year instead of Pepper Johnson as our starting MLB. Mo Lewis @ LOLB made Pro Bowl & 1st Team All-Pro 1998 and Marvin Jones as another Linebacker in the middle would've been dominant.

    Avery Williamson reminds me a lot like how Bart Scott used to play and an ILB duo of David Harris/Bart Scott within the middle of our defense behind Jenkins/Pouha up front during two AFC Championship Game runs (back to back) of 2009 and 2010 was incredible to watch for me under Rex Ryan with #24 Darrelle Revis leading the way.

    lol @ oh so quickly you've already forgotten all about our ILB duo of Harris/Scott up the middle for us. Well. I haven't.

    And a C.J Mosley/Avery Williamson ILB duo behind Quinnen Williams up front within the heart and soul and middle of our Defense under Gregg Williams while being led by #33 Jamal Adams roaming the entire field would become just as fun for me to watch.

    I don't care how good our defense looked under our 1st year with Gregg Williams. Because we were robbed of seeing both C.J Mosley and Avery Williamson working alongside one another @ LILB/RILB.

    And you aren't going to find an available #1 or #2 starting NFL CB either who's on the market for "$6M" who can come right in and contribute as a more proven talent than Avery Williamson to begin with. Sorry. Because that's not happening.

    Which CB for "$6.5M" are you talking about who's a more proven and better football player than Avery Williamson? I'd like to know...?

    And those 2009-2010 Jet teams wouldn't have featured the type of Front 7 in front of Revis if not for both of Harris/Scott within the middle of it all. Scott was the perfect Robin to Harris as Batman just as Williamson will become the perfect Robin for Mosley who's here to become Batman.

    I'm more of a fan of a 3-4 Defensive scheme such as the Pittsburgh/Baltimore/SF/N.E one's that I've seen rather than 4-3's that I've seen over the years and Avery Williamson is a great fit for any 3-4 Defense.

    Injuries happen too. As seen last year. Which is why it's beautiful to have Neville Hewitt Re-Signed as solid and experienced depth and now coming back on a 1 year deal behind both of Mosley/Williamson on the depth chart; as both will be returning from injury.
     
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    There are so many issues with this long post I don’t even know where to start.
    1. Bart Scott was undrafted in 2002, 2 years after the championship. Not a major investment being undrafted, also not there for the SB win. Also 2000 was outside of the 20 year window.

    2. Parcells and Broncos eras you refer to are way outside of the window. Football was a different game back then.

    3. NaVorro Bowman was a 3rd round pick, which is substantially lower in salary than Williamson’s cost this year. The 49ers of that period were also stacked, so adding pieces like that was a viable option. They also did not win.
     
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    Any word on Burgess coming back? He’d be in the LB rotation for sure for depth purposes as well.
     
  18. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    I know that we did not extend his tenure and that he's a FA currently free and available to sign with anyone.

    I'd love to bring back James Burgess on a Hewitt like 1 year prove it deal as he finished the season with 80 tackles but absolutely exploded throughout our last 8 games with 69 2nd half tackles (an average of 8.2 tackles per game during our 6-2 finish). Also recorded on the year 0.5 sacks, 1 INT, 1 Fumble Forced, 1 Fumble Recovery and 8 tackles behind the line of scrimmage for loss.

    Mosley.
    Williamson.
    Hewitt.
    Burgess.
    Cashman.


    That's a solid group but without an outside pass rusher and since I don't believe that Jordan Jenkins is coming back I really hope that we land Jadeveon Clownery because our linebacking unit would then become a big strength of ours after landing a Clowney like talent.
     
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