The AFC East is now wide open.

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  1. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Cam Newton is 30 years old. Not 39. There's a pretty significant difference there.
     
  2. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    7-1 realistic? Yeahhh....No. Baby steps.
     
  3. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    With the improvements the Bills and Dolphins have made while we have been sitting on our thumbs it seems that each and every divisional match-up will be a challenge for our team.
     
  4. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    You're right. He's 30. The 9 was right next to the 0 but yes he's 30 and has taken an NFL beating and nowhere near as athletic as was coming out of Auburn. And he's never been a good pocket passing QB to begin with such as Belichick's system with Brady which is ran off of quick throws, accuracy and excellence within the pocket. Cam Newton would drive Belly crazy and the complete opposite of Tom Brady. Less than 60% career completion percentage for Newton.
     
  5. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Patriots = Win.
    Patriots = Win.
    Dolphins = Win.
    Dolphins = Win.
    Bills = Loss.
    Bills = Win.

    No Brady? No more free wins for them lol.
     
  6. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Am I missing something here? Do we not still have the worst coach and roster in the division?
     
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  7. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    We've got an up and coming Franchise QB in Sam Darnold heading into his 3rd year with a potentially nasty defense. Improve our O-Line position and the AFC East is wide open for the first time in 20 years.
     
  8. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    we have a head coach that doesn’t know how to use our best offensive weapon and outside of that one weapon, we have none. We have a good slot WR and a deep threat that we might not even have by the end of the day. It starts and ends with the coach though.
     
  9. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    By shittiest you mean we still have a chance.
     
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  10. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    And Gase is the worst coach?

    After only 4 years he has an overall record of 30-34. With two shit crap franchises in MIA/NYJ too, so shove his worst coach BS agenda you have up your you know what.

    Bill Belichick had a losing record of 36-44 after his first (5) FIVE YEARS.

    So that means if Gase were to go anything better than 6-10 this up coming season, he'll have a BETTER RECORD than a future HOF head coach in Bill Belichick after 5 years. Who was BLESSED with a BILL PARCELLS built defense by the time he arrived in N.E as a career loser (before later being blessed once again, with Tom Brady).

    And in Belly's 6th year he went 5-11 (1st year in N.E) and had a career losing record of 41-55 (14 games below .500) after not one, not two, not three, not four (gase), not five but SIX seasons. A career LOSER heading into his 7th season (with two different teams).

    If all fans were like YOU, All-Time great coaches would have never had an opportunity to develop and become great without being ran out of town after 1 season you're a joke. Gase has been in crap situation(s) with both crap fest ran Miami and 1 year with the lowly Jets.

    Gase is no worse than Bill Belichick when Belly doesn't have TOM BRADY.
     
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  11. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Belichick went 11-5 the year he didn’t have Tom Brady and is 15-5 without him as the Pats head coach. Theory debunked. The rest of the post isn’t even worth responding to. He got run out of Miami, he throws his own guys under the bus, he’s notoriously stubborn, players actively shit on him publicly. There is not a single comparison to Belichick other than their job title.
     
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  12. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    It is not as wide open as you think. Bills are the best overall team, Dolphins are rebuilding and have a shit load of premium picks (we were almost swept by then last season) and the Pats still of BB.

    I love the Jets and always will, but we are still a bottom 5-10 team talent wise. We have to start drafting better. Nothing else matters.
     
  13. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    brady is ageing and declining. they had not much of an offense last year. it was all bill and the D. the pats will still be a 10+ win team w/o brady at QB
     
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  14. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Are you talking about Gase "not knowing" how to use Le'Veon Bell because if so you're more clueless than I thought.

    Don't you dare look @ our O-Line as a problem "Gase" created when he just got here last year and we've struggled with an O-Line for multiple years now.

    Don't you dare look @ Le'Veon Bell's average yards per carry as a way of shitting on Bell when we had one of the worst makeshift offensive lines within NFL history last year because of Maccagnan, not Gase and Bell couldn't find holes.

    But under GASE? Le'Veon Bell was able to record 66 receptions out of the backfield as an excellent security blanket for a young Sam Darnold. Gase didn't know how to use a dual threat pass catching RB out of the backfield but yet recorded 65+ receptions during his 1st year with Bell? lol. Yea. Ok. Big genius.

    It's kind of hard for an offensive mind such as Gase to call plays when his crap offensive line can not A.) Pass protect and has his QB's running for their lives and B.) Can not create holes for his star RB to run wild through as in Pittsburgh and C.) Can't pass protect or run block as a historically horrid O-Line.

    You're not all that smart, are you?
     
  15. GREG

    GREG Well-Known Member

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    Even with Brady gone that Pats D is still solid. If anyone takes the division it will be BUF most likely. The Jets will have a shot if JD does a good job with FA/draft the next couple of years. Maybe 2021 but I doubt this coming season.
    The Pats still have a solid D so I wouldn't count them out just yet. If not NE then BUF will probably win the division this year. The Jets need more than one offseason to rebuild the roster and a new HC (HOPEFULLY) to compete for the division. If things go well maybe 2021. At least the Pats dynasty with Brady is over.
     
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  16. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Nah. They won't have a good defense without Tom Brady keeping them off the field, moving the chains, putting up points on the board and leaving his defenses with great field position due to protecting the football (only 8 INT's last year). Because of Brady those N.E defenses could always PLAY WITH THE LEAD. That. Won't be the case anymore.

    And Bill Belichick can consistently win without Tom Brady? lol says who, YOU?!?! Because you're wrong. He can't.

    He was 41-55 overall after his first 6 years as NFL head coach without Tom Brady ala 14 games under .500 after not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5 but SIX years!

    Only 1 win season compared to 5 losing seasons without Brady during his first 6 years .

    You're full of it. And will literally say anything to try and prove just how wrong someone is lol.
     
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  17. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Did that make you feel good?

    I should have known better than to play into the hand of a guy who has been suspended for not being able to have a human conversation. The Bell conversation has been had plenty of times by people here and outside of here. If you think Bell was used correctly, godspeed. He's quite possibly the best pass-catching threat out of the backfield and our genius coach had him run ten feet to the left for dumpoffs. Rarely ran routes, rarely designed screens (blame the OL all you want), ran him directly into the middle of a bad OL. Gase blew it. Bottom line.
     
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  18. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    maybe because he went 11-5 with matt cassell at QB when brady went down for the year?
     
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  19. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    The Jets last won the division in 2002. Eighteen years ago....
     
  20. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Wow. Two winning seasons without Brady compared to five losing seasons after 7 years combined without Brady.

    And that 11-5 season with Cassell? Was after a 16-0 Brady season just the year before. 5 loses worse the next season without Brady.

    2 winning seasons without Brady.
    5 losing seasons without Brady.
    1-1 playoff record.
    lol @ you.

    You want to talk up Belly for an 11-5 season without Brady? Well Gase as a 1st year HC went 10-6.

    Funny how you won't admit the career loser Belichick was after his first 6 years in the league @ 14 games below .500 but you call Gase the worst HC after only 4 years you're a joke the way you talk about sports man.
     

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