Come out of where? The internet rumor mill? Not a single NFL team wants another to know how much they are willing to pay for any player; to think any fan can go on the webz and see a real price tag for one makes no sense. Everything you post here is speculation and opinion. You don't believe Anderson is worth $13 - 15M which is probably in line with most teams' thinking but to place a hard ceiling at twelve million, when we still haven't seen the final cap growth figure yet, unnecessarily restricts the bargaining process. Spotrac puts his value at a hair over twelve million but that is in the general sense for 31 teams; is there no added value to the Jets in keeping Anderson in the huddle with Darnold?
You can see the price other wr2 are paid. Cap hits top at around 10.5 million. Some of them have hit over 1000 yards. Anderson has not. 12 million is generous. If we factor in his off the field issues and his connection with Darnold 12 is max I would offer. He simply isn't worth more. To pay him more would be limiting the teams future. Why pay a wr 2 star money when you have so many holes to fill? Make no sense from a business standpoint
I know Fitz has 2 sides. He has only shown the good side 3 times. Once in buffalo, once in NYJ, and last year in Miami... all 3 times he go paid. He didn't get paid in Houston for a reason. He was Garbage Fitz. And Obviously you didn't see the Bengals laste year. We had 3 games over bad QB play that Darnold missed... They had almost a full year. Even Dalton was trash in 90% of his games. There is a reason they pick first. Yet Tyler Boyd broke 1k.
So far his verified "off field issues" amount to a speeding ticket; let's keep things in perspective. Spotrac has values on seven free agent wide receivers and take much more into consideration than simply yardage. Amari Cooper's value is rated at $19.7M; Green, Sanders, Cobb, Perriman and Roberts are all under ten million. I understand the twelve for Anderson which I don't consider "star" money. If Anderson has not been the Jets WR1, who is? And, again, is there no added value in keeping him and Darnold together? Who would his replacement be at much less money?
The draft has over 25 wr going in the first 3 round. Several have more potential than Robbie. He was our wr1 which is precisely why we need to upgrade. He has never and maybe will never break 1000 yards. There are wr2 out there that do it often. He hasn't and may never. Cooper is a wr1 and may get 19 per. I doubt he gets much more he may only get 18. We don't know. But there is absolutely no reason to pay a receiver who hasn't even been a good #2 yet anything close to what DeAndre Hopkins makes at just over 13. Overpaying is exactly why this team has been garbage for so long. We can overpay middle of the pack players and keep losing or start looking at the winning team and see they don't do this. I prefer winning.
I'm not sure why that 1000 yard figure is so important to you knowing what you do about the Jets offense overall the last two years. I'm also not sure why you continue to ignore the fact that Anderson and Darnold work well together and replacing that rapport would be difficult at best, especially when putting two new receivers into the mix at the same time. For the Jets to get one of the top five receivers in the draft as well as a big guy like Pittman or Claypool should be doable, you said there are 25 out there, but that is no reason to let Anderson get away (probably to come back to burn the Jets.) He can be a very solid number two right here with two rookies. Makes for winning.
He can. And for a good deal it is worth it. But to over pay him so that we can't bring talent in and resign our star talent. No thanks. We need o line in FA. We need to resign Adam's. We need to get depth and fill holes. Overpaying mediocre talent constantly holds us back. So if he comes back for a good price then ok. If not he is easily replaced.
Why do you refuse to acknowledge that Anderson's value to the Jets would exceed that to any other team with similar circumstances due to his working relationship with Darnold? How much is that worth? To exclude that and hold such a hard line on what you consider overpayment without even knowing exactly what the cap will be .seems to be counterproductive. Can you quantify what you mean by a "good deal" or "overpaying" and let us know how "easily replaced" he can be?
His "working relationship" with Darnold didn't even produce a good wr2 year? His stats are bad in all aspects. Why do you assume another wr can't come in and put up the same if no better with Sam. I don't see this "working relationship". Most good team 2nd and 3rd we did as much as Robbie.
Andy Dalton started 13 games, Ryna Finley started 3. Bengals o line was horrible... Tyler Boyd - 1046 yards, 5 tds, 15 starts. Kyle Allen 12 games, Cam Newton 2 games, Will Grier 2 games.... McCaffrey 1005 receiving yards, 4 tds, 16 games. DJ Moore 1175, 4 yards, 15 games. Curtis Samuels 627 yards, 6 tds, 15 games Robbie nearly beat Samuels at 779 yards and 5 tds. Again. He's mediocre. No he's not worth the 12/year. Giving him that's is giving him a bonus to stay in the system.
I already mentioned this but it's unlikely that he gets 14M. But hey if he meets certain incentives based off team success and individual success then I don't mind the bonuses. Like I mentioned contracts are much more then just APY.
And as I said it's his cap hit that matters. If he isn't getting a huge cap hit then I'm ok with it. But the fact remains he isn't worth a 13-15 million per year cap hit. I have watch football for over 25 years and he doesn't have to tools to be a wr1. His stats reflect that. He may up them due to improvements around his but he himself can't get it done. He isn't Andre Johnson who still managed to look good on a horrible team. He's got potential to be a good #2. If we can get him for a 10 or 11 million cap hit we do it. Anything over he can go to Cleveland.
Who ever proposed paying him enough to take a 13 - 15 million dollar cap hit? You've said he's not worth twelve million dollars but now he is worth a 10 - 11 million dollar cap hit? What do you think the cap hit would be on basically a $12 million dollar paycheck? You're all over the board here. Except with the stats.
Have you paid attention at all. People have projected 13-15. Word is his agent is asking 13-15 as well. I have said the whole time I wouldn't pay more than 12, that's generous. 10-11 would be better. No one is all over the board. I haven't changed any numbers. It's all about the cap hit. The lower the better.
Yet he had a higher QB rating a better pct, more yards per pass and a similar TD to INT rating. So who knew that shit Fitz was actually better than Jets record breaking Fitz, funny old world. You're right I didn't see the Bengals bar one game and they won that one. And once and for all I couldn't give a fuck about your mythical 1k magic marker, do you not understand that lol I see you had to resort to Robby bingo by bringing up his off-field issues, yet again, a speeding ticket is all that it amounted to and he has caused no trouble in two years but yeah, he is trouble off that field of play, the dawg.
For the people who are saying no to Robbie Anderson, please stop acting and pretending as if he ever had a QB who had time in the pocket in order for his routes to develop. Put Robby Anderson behind an O-Line who provides his QB enough time to find him deep and he's a real deal prime time game changer. Probably the best deep threat WR I've ever seen from a Jet and it's been unfortunate that he's been forced to play the WR position with career losing and career JAG QB's such as Shitztragic, another career loser in McCown, even played a couple of games with a compete bust in Petty and then a talented QB in Sam Darnold who's ran for his life with no protection whatsoever but yet people want to ACT as if they know Robbie Anderson's potential? Horse shit!
"People" can guess at whatever they want; that doesn't mean I have to give them any credence. Agents ask for more than what players are worth - that's called negotiating and whatever their starting point is will be something more than what deal can be made. Any "word" about asking prices is just more talk, often put out by the agents to get teams thinking higher. What you change is that until today you've talked about contract money, now you're talking about both that and cap space; here you're back to contracts again, it seems with the numbers but then you throw in the cap again at the end. Try to be consistent. I'm no cap expert but I'm pretty sure that the guys who do that kind of thing for a living can figure out a way to pay the guy twelve million and structure the contract to only take a hit of $10 - 11 this year. Isn't that what you're looking for, or do you just really not want the guy here regardless?
No you are right. That is what I'm looking for is a low cap hit. But not just for this year. They can do incentives and up his money a bit. But when you get up to the 14 or 15 million a year, I personally don't think he's worth it. I hope your right and he doesn't get that much. But I'm betting some team will over pay. I just hope it's not us
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-qb-lamar-jackson-magnet-free-agent-receivers Anderson, 26, is a big-play downfield threat who has more upside than Sanders but not the consistent production. He has 22 receptions of 30 or more yards since 2016, but he's never recorded a 1,000-yard season (which could be the result of playing with Sam Darnold the past two seasons). Really insulting line about Sam in this article. Drives me nuts when reporters are paid money yet have no clue what they are talking about.
