No but you making him out to be trash is obviously false. And you calling people stupid for saying so is ignorance. He is still a threat and could develop into a Great qb. He is 2 years in and has done WAY better than any of the "pocket" passers drafted with him. He has a higher chance of going to the playoffs than any drafted with him or since him. To call someone stupid because you don't understand football isn't exactly bright.
Meh he’s a running QB on a good team with a good HC Sam will prove to be better Lamar sucks as a pocket passer. Not smart either. but time will tell.
Please no personal attacks to Longsuffering either. Maybe I made the mistake of tolerating these attacks way too long
Lamar has passed a lot this year and looked good doing it. I question his ability to move the football without running it but he does have more passing touchdowns than sam by quite a lot. It is to soon to say he cannot pass from the pocket. I remember people thinking Wilson would never be "elite" in the pocket but I would take him over most qbs in the nfl "from the pocket". Sam may end up better and I honestly hope he does, but this year Lamar is better. NO doubt about that. This still is no reason to badger other people due to their opinions.
Understandable. I will refrain. Just trying to prove a point that acting over beliefs is ignorance. Not meaning to bash him. I personally think gase is an idiot as Longsuffering does, but I have had great conversations with Vilma and understand his point in the matter as well.
Although, as I said in the 2018 QB thread, maybe it was too soon to induct Lamar into Canton, I wouldn't count him out either. What he did this year was no fluke, and I'm pretty sure he'll learn from his mistakes, as will his team. I envy Ravens fans. The difference between how their team is run, and ours, is a case study on how to do things right and how to do them wrong. I sure hope Douglas brought some of their magic with him.
I couldn't agree more. I think NCJetsfan posted a thing earlier about the 20/20 program and Baltimore scouting. I hope Douglas paid attention when he was with Newsome. Some of it is brilliant. We need to build Sam an offense and GW a defense. We need to build everything with a vision. Hopefully Douglas has a good vision for it.
Every year there's a new trend...last year it was the passing game is the future, this year it's running QBs...just build a team like every teams that's ever won the SB...great defense, great offensive line, and a smart QB....people always trying to reinvent the wheel.
He didn't get injured dumbass. Did they lose? Yeah, but that wasn't our discussion it was durability. LMAO excited over literally nothing.
Guys. Please no personal attacks. Nobody is stupid or dumb for having a different opinion than you. Mngmnt
Running QBs, even great ones like Lamar, are the definition of a one trick pony. And if that one trick involves getting tackled to the ground by 280 pound defenders, over and over again, well. I'd rather have a one trick pony that stands in a clean pocket and tosses an inflated pigskin 20 yards downfield over and over again. Tom Brady is a statue that has never ran more than 3 yards in his 20 year career, but has 6 rings to show for it. Not a single 'running QB' has ever won a ring. Give me a Joe Montana or Steve Young or even a Sam Darnold with a super fast brain that can function in a split second, a good arm, and can throw darts on the run. And an O-line. And a good defense. That's it!
I'd rather the bulldozer RB behind the massive OL so the QB doesn't have to do much of anything other than not lose the game.
As it relates to Sam. The only thing that I believe Sam needs to really improve upon is his decision making - taking what's given and not taking unnecessary risks. IMO, losing McCown really hurt his development this year. The TD he threw to R Anderson week 16 was ridiculously good. He has all of the tools necessary to be a very good NFL QB. I believe with another year of seasoning under his belt, he'll be ready to take that next level jump in 2021...
It's a flavor of the week thing because the Titans are doing it with success right now. But as a whole, the quarterback and 3rd down defense needs to win you a Super Bowl. Even more than that though; team balance is important. Of course, a running game is needed though. We need to figure that out this year.