Addazio left Temple in really bad shape when he left and Rhule turned them into a 10 win team in back to back seasons by Year 3. We're talking about Temple which is an extremely difficult place to win. Add to that Baylor who just came off a scandal under Briles and they were persona non grata when he took the reins. Like I said the guy has a formula. Those are the guys you want because they are proven. Especially a guy who won big in such short time in two tough situations. I think both NY teams will regret passing on him.
They weren't anywhere close to the easiest schedule of any Power 5 team. He just took a Baylor team that was left for dead to the Sugar Bowl in Year 3. Rhule over Judge every day of the week. A WR coach with no HC experience? That's awful. Rhule's got the track record. Jets and Giants blew it again. We have Adam friggin Gase. Pathetic.
As I said, it isn't necessary to project next year's schedule to realize that's it's going to be harder than this year's schedule was. Even if next year's schedule ends up being easier than average, it's still going to be significantly harder than this year.
Judge sounds like an old school Coach who wants and demands the best from his players. A no nonsense type of guy — let’s see how that works when team keeps losing. That type of persona only works when they win.
How bad of shape was Temple really in? They were 9-4, 8-4, and 9-4 prior to one bad 4-7 season by Addazio. It's also the only of the five Philadelphia colleges that has a D1 football program.
What does the fact that it's the only Philly school with football have to do with anything? Philly's never been a college football town by any measure. Mostly diehard Penn St fans is all you'll find. It doesn't make it any easier to win there. Shitty facilities, play in a pro stadium that's half empty, dangerous campus. That gives them little advantage when competing on a league or national level. Sure they had 3 nice seasons prior to that 4-7 season but they were real bad for the better part of 20 years prior to that 3 year good stretch with more 1 win seasons over that 20 year span than any other win total. I just think Rhule turning around those programs in short time is an impressive feat.
Old school hardass mentality with new school players. If they start off 1-4 or 1-5, they're in trouble
It means that it's easier to recruit because there are such limited competing options in the area? Any athlete that wants to stay close to home has two choices in the Philadelphia/South Jersey area. Three if you count Rutgers I guess. There was just a much better foundation there than everyone lays credit to. Rhule did turn it back on the winning path, but it's Al Golden that really revived the program. I don't know much about Addazio but he keeps getting jobs so he can't be that bad of a coach. It was a winning program prior to one down year when Rhule got there. Baylor was a larger mess, but they also beat up on a stupid easy schedule and had to beat a ton of Big 12 teams in overtime and last second field goals. The Big 12 was 1-5 in Bowl Games this year. One of the most important tools in college is recruiting. It's completely useless in the NFL. It doesn't help you because it doesn't exist.
You mean 2nd tier options? Again Temple has been an afterthought in the college football world for basically forever. A 3 year spike in the graph before Rhule took over does not change that. Most 3, 4 or 5 star recruits are not looking at Temple let alone Rutgers if they're from Philly/South Jersey area. They are looking at the usual suspects in Penn St, the rest of the B10 and the ACC mostly. That will change for Rutgers because of the Schiano rehire. He has so many contacts at all levels and is already a proven winning college HC and builder that he'll get some good recruits. But that's another story and a different topic. To act like Rhule's success was in large part due to his recruiting prowess is not accurate. He wasn't getting great recruits at Temple. He was taking walk-ons like Hassan Reddick and turning them into 1st round picks. That's called player development and coaching 101. Those skills are completely transferable at the NFL level. He's got the "It" factor that guys like Adam Gase will never have. I see him turning around basically any program he takes over. He's got the track record.
No, but he was also playing in a conference in the same boat. You think UCF is drawing better players than Florida, Miami or Florida State? SMU has been a cess pool since they got the death penalty. He beat two ranked teams in his tenure there; Navy (20) and East Carolina (21) and I don't believe either finished the year ranked. He built the programs up. If you think recruiting had nothing to do with that then you're being ignorant. Recruiting is the single most important tool in college. Coaching is secondary if you don't have players. Let's remember. He also didn't build Alabama to be Alabama. There was a reason that Baylor was ranked below 15 for the majority of the year despite being undefeated into the Oklahoma game. No one believed in them because they beat a bunch of shitty teams. He also coached a rush 3 drop 8 defense and didn't exactly work wonders with Charlie Brewer in any games that mattered. Again, that's not a defense that can be transferred to the NFL. We'll see what happens with Rhule. He's getting paid as a top 5 NFL coach before even setting foot on the field. The overall point to remember is that this is a new owner that wanted to make an incredibly splashy move. Rhule seems like a good college coach. But this is kind of like one of the eccentric ideas in giving someone who probably barely knows how an NFL front office works, the keys to the entire franchise. Think Lane Kiffin in Oakland and Chip Kelly in Philadelphia.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...f-having-players-run-after-practice-mistakes/ Not sure how this will end, but this shtick normally doesn't end well.
Yeah the failure of the BB coaching tree is not the intelligence of the coaches it's they all parrot his personality ....this shtick only works when you have Super Bowl rings not when your name is Eric Mangini or Josh Mcdaniels.
If they're going to copy anything from BB it should be the cheating. There's no other secret formula.
How long does this guy have left until the fanbase turns on him? Obviously the fans are done with the GM, but Judges seat has to be warming up..
It's hard to see Gettleman surviving a season that plays out the way this one seems to be going, especially when you add in that the Giants are in bad cap shape for next year and will have to be dumping veteran players as a result (not necessarily a bad thing when they are apparently such poor players, of course, but that's not exactly an endorsement for Gettleman). Judge brings absolutely nothing to the table that a new GM would want to be associated with, as far as I can see, so what is the reason to keep him? He's just another failed fruit from the BB coaching tree. The Jones and Barkley questions are much more interesting to me, and crucial for the Giants. The decision to draft Barkley looks worse every day (although they probably would have taken either Darnold or Rosen instead, which doesn't look too great either); he's obviously talented, but between injuries, the fact that running backs are easily replaceable, and the other fact that the Giants are 9-25 (.265 winning percentage) in games since 2018 in which he had at least 5 carries and 7-13 (.350) in games in which he didn't, there's really no argument other than hope to not try to trade him while he still might have value. You hear a lot about how Jones is putting it together better this year, but by the numbers, he's actually worse so far this year than he was his rookie year, and he was barely mediocre that year. I don't think they'll trade him, but the question is whether a new GM will draft his replacement in the next draft. He's playing for his Giants future in the last 11 games, I would say. The Giants will be in a similar situation with him that the Jets were in with Darnold before the 2020 season.
Nice post Jeff. I agree with a lot of what you wrote. I have a few friends who want to keep Judge, but get rid of the GM and the QB. Keep trying to tell them that you can't force the HC on the GM. We did that for a decade and look what it has gotten us? I don't think Mara is able to live through another rebuild, he seems like his patience has run out. Wouldn't shock me one bit to see them offer their 1 and Chicago's 1 from the trade last year to try and package and get Wilson from Seattle. One of the picks will be top 5, but other will probably be top 12 [idk where Chicago falls at the moment].
