I don't know that he goes 2 and 2. I think we some developmental/depth options here. But I do expect 1 draft, 1 fa, and several udfa.
First post I think to talk Trade back, which is smart imo since Draft heavy with OL and WR So where would you ideally want to position yourself? Frankly, If our first 2 picks are both OL , or WR and OL I would feel that Management has finally turned the corner
It a ways off but I'm thinking around 17-23... targets being Trey Adams, Wills (if he falls any) Higgins. Enough a fall to get another 2nd and 3rd/4th but not so far we lose to much talent. We are 4 months out so its pretty hard to tell where the prospects fall but considering Pittsburg trade up from this area last year thats my target.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-junior-cb-jeff-okudah-declares-for-nfl-draft Can't help but like this kid. Not saying I would take him but he's good on and off the field.
Played like a stud against Clemson too. Laying guys out and huge pass breakups all game. Really stood out.
FWIW, I didnt intend to come across as disrespectful or Arrogant.To the contrary, i respect your opinion quite a bit.
Joe Douglas said he would listen to offers. I doubt that he is going to be making trade calls given the talent the Jets have available. Jamal Adams isn't going to get traded unless a very strong offer is made for him, something along the lines of a couple of 1sts or a 1st and several 2nd's. There's no point in calling somebody to ask for that kind of value. It's more likely to blow up in your face when they say no and then somebody leaks the fact that the Jets called. If somebody calls about Adams, well they're going to tell you their offer and you can either safely decline, boosting Adams value, or if they blow you away figure out whether it's worth it to make the deal. Any deal involving Adams is going to be raked over by the press and likely hated by the fans. It better be a very good deal in that case. Leveon Bell essentially has zero trade value at this point unless the Jets make real accommodations in terms of the salary they pick up over the next year or two. The more the Jets are willing to pay on his remaining contract the better the pick compensation they are likely to receive - however his value is limited in any case to maybe a late 2nd round to late 4th round pick. He's a 28 year old RB on Feb 18th 2020 who hasn't been a good football player since 2017 and who hasn't played a full season since 2014. You gotta have some really nice blinders on at this point to think he'd make a big impact on your 2020 record given that history. If the Jets call around about Bell they both drive his trade value down and make the relationship worse without any guarantee that anybody is going to give them anything for Bell anyway. Trumaine Johnson is a guy the Jets might call around about just before they cut him and take the cap hit. There's not likely to be any interest and it probably isn't worth the call. Nobody wants him at $11M next year and the Jets can get out from under the $11M with a cut before the 3rd day of the league year which looks like a mortal lock at this point. After that there just isn't a lot of talent on the team that fits into a trade scenario. The good players are either young to early prime or already free agents or have a mountain of guarantees that say no to any realistic trade possibility. I think the Jets will listen to offers they receive but are unlikely to start any substantive conversations given the realities involved. I think if people call with moderate offers for Jamal Adams the Jets are likely to shut down the conversation very quickly as they did at the trade deadline. It's possible that the Jets won't even let the other team talk to Joe D. until certain bonafides have been met. They don't want this off-season to turn into an endless stream of rumors about Adams possibly getting traded. There's just no value in that for the organization given the tough contract talks ahead. Everybody shares agents with everybody else. It's really easy for things to get out of hand with just a single mishandled phone call.
It is way too early to determine who we should pick at number 11. Sure you can group bunch of OLs, WRs and even an Edge for our potential first Rd pick (s). Not only what the Jets will do in FA but what happens in the Combines. It is clear that the Jets will focus on several OLs, CBS, WRs, pass rusher and even a QB. While some of the names mentioned about are good, but a lot can change rather than focusing on a particular player. WRs are so deep that we can grab a decent one or two in 3rd rd.
I think most would agree that at this point the majority would be happy with one of Thomas, Wirfs, Jeudy, Lamb at 11. With that said 7 others have to be drafted before 11 to ensure one of them is available. Who can they be? Guaranteed Burrows Young Okudah Possible Tua Herbert Derrick Brown Isaiah Simmons Any others? First we need to hope that Tua declares and then that the 3 QBs go in top 10. That would go a long way in ensuring that one of our main targets drops out of top 10.
I totally agree with your comments regarding Adams. I also agree that no one will want Trumaine Johnson, so the Jets will just have to cut/release him to get the cap space. I agree with your comments regarding Bell during the offseason. Where he might have some value is if one of the top contenders' starting RB goes down before the trade deadline. If they aren't in contention for a playoff spot at that point, the Jets may have the opportunity to get a decent draft pick for him then. With a better OL, Bell should have more success as a runner, and hopefully, Gase figures out how to use him more effectively. He has also been a good leader and role model for younger players. I think the Jets have one player which they could trade and get a 3rd or 4th round pick in return...Avery Williamson. He's only 27, in his prime and is a tackling machine. He has averaged right at 100 tackles, 3 sacks, a forced fumble and almost three PDef and one interception per season during his 5-year NFL career (not counting this past season when he was on IR). We don't really need him with Mosely, Hewitt and Cashman. He's a bit of a luxury. We possibly could get a starting OG or good draft pick for him. That would give us an additional $6.5 million in cap space, which could enable Douglas to sign another FA or two and upgrade depth AND possibly add another starter either via the trade or via the draft pick.
The problem(hurdle) with trying to trade Williamson,or anyone with a serious injury, is when will he be able to pass a physical? I don’t think he will be able to pass a physical until late April early may. At that point there’s not much left to use cap space on. You can get a draft pick but it’s not going to be anything worth what he will give you next year.
I disagree. He was injured early and should be ready soon. And a 4th may not give us a for sure player of his caliber, but it could get us a guard (which we need) in place of an ilb ((which we are good on).
If he's not able to pass a physical until late April, then you're probably right. Hopefully, he'll be able to pass a physical well before then, or at least show that he is progressing very well in his rehab with no setbacks. IMO we have to think beyond next season (short term) and think long term. Next season is Williamson's last under his contract. Why let him walk and get nothing in return, or re-sign an ILB who isn't that good in coverage and will cost even more on his next contract? One shouldn't tie up that much of one's cap space in two older ILBs, especially when neither of them excels in coverage. Our run D was very good this season without either Mosely or Williamson. Getting Mosley back will be enough. Williamson is a luxury and overkill for a position that isn't a prime position. If we get a starting OL in return that would help Sam and the team not only next season, but going forward. Even if it's just a draft pick in 2021 that would give Douglas another pick with which to fill holes/upgrade the talent level of the team at the point we should be ready to be a serious contender.
I think this is the year the Jets will no doubt focus on both WR and OL - at least the first 3 rounds - but, if a talented WR like Ceedee Lamb or a Jeudy is there at 11 you have to take the plunge - watching Jeudy yeasterday, he was all over the field making plays...he's as good a play maker as the Jets will ever have presently. Doubt he'll drop that low but it's not that deep a class like OL - Jets trading down is a possibilty.
I think once we hit late April early May the focus is more on the coming season than the future. Hewitt and cashman played well but are still a significant drop off from Williamson. If the focus this year is going to be on the offense I don’t see them weakening the defense by trading good players without directly being able to improve the offense.
we need the cap room. burgess, hewitt and cashman all played well. mosely is making a ton. keeping williamson doesn't make sense. we had the number 2 ranked run defense in the NFL without williamson. we need the 6.5mil more then we need him
I disagree. You always play for the future especially at draft time and shortly after. And again if we can improve any other position from trade, you do it... hewitt can step in, so can cashman.
