I think holding the bounty gate for all these years on his shoulders alone is absolute BS. He paid the piper and he deserves a HC job. He has done wonders with many a young team. I would take him as a HC over Gase in a nanosecond. Get a young stud offensive coordinator to help him and move on. I don’t want to loose all the great work he has done just to retain Gase.
You realize that same Dolphins team that we lost to just knocked off the Patriots in Foxborough with a first round bye on the line and also beat the 4 seed in the NFC right?
Brook, I predicted a 7-9 season for the Jets during the preseason, but I will admit I had no idea they would have done this in the manner you just described. The NY Giant Loving Football media has not been fair to Gase. I am not suggesting he is a great coach but compared to Toilet Bowls he is a genius. There will be more pressure for the jets to perform next year. If they don't do something about their pitiful offensive line, Sam and the offense will still be unable to flourish. For people who say an offensive line doesn't matter, look at how Brady looks this year given not so good an offensive line. His footwork and form are all screwed up and I am betting worrying about getting killed in the pocket doesn't help. I hope in the name of the football gods that the Jets do something about their OL and blocking.
Hope he fails? The guy HAS failed all on his own. Nobody needs to HOPE for failure. He failed with the Phins, he is showing the same amount of failure and inept coaching (If not worse) with this team. It's weird that people are this blind. Only thing I find weird at all.
So, that redeems the record setting performance this team managed to set by losing to TWO win-less teams in a single season? How about the fact that even though we finished the year out at 6-2 we are still ranked at the very bottom of every major offensive category that I'm looking at right now. I could go on and on, what's the point though... People will make excuses, just to be let down in due time anyway. To each their own.
The only stat that matters is wins and losses. Now it will be important to see what GM Joe Douglas does this offseason. If I was sitting next to him, I would be yelling OL! In the meantime, if the Jets were to fire Gase who would be a realistic replacement? If you say, Greg Williams, I will argue that's who I wanted the Jets to sign all along. But he is our DC and I am hoping he will work with Gase to make the franchise a winner. If by the end of next season the Jets are no better, then, by all means, fire Gase's ass.
The offense sucks. Not forty points a game, not thirty, not even twenty. We're not looking for the impossible. The Jets scored 17 1/4 points a game. Outscored by every team in the NFL except the Redskins who scored ten points fewer. Yes, even outscored by the lowly Bengals. Net points 25th in the league, saved only by the defense pulling it together, even with their injuries. Why anyone thinks injuries are not a normal part of the game but are a valid excuse for failure is beyond comprehension. I have no respect for that line of thinking.
Doesn't take much comprehension, worse players=worse performance. Here's the formula Team/injures-quality starters = worse output That's up there with the theory of relativity Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
At some point in their career Todd Bowles and Gase also beat the Pats So Gun to your Head who would you like to have as your HC the next 3 years Bill Belichek or Brian Flores? And if Belichek said no would you go with Flores over Mike McCarthy?? I'll wait for your answer...
We're ranked 32nd offense in the league man. 32nd! Where was the offensive guru we were promised? I would be surprised with 6 wins next year with the schedule we have.
you mean when the starting QB was out with mono and then was stuck with Luke Falk for a few games?? then being behind a porous OLine? Then that bad OLine getting into the 2nd and 3rd string?? cmon man. I’m not a big Gase fan but still it was an unfortunate set of circumstances with brutal injuries and a bad roster.
Every team has injuries. The Steelers, Jaguars, Panthers, all lost their starting QBs for longer periods of time and managed better offenses than us. Miami who was trying to tank had a better offense than us. The Colts had their franchise QB retire on them just before the season had a better offense than us. The offensive line excuse is valid because we have one of the worst offensive lines in the league...and those are our starters. Douglas better address this if he is to show he is anywhere near being a decent GM. I think this was all just a convenient narrative to protect Gase and it sickens me. This isnt some recently promoted coordinator, Gase has had 4 seasons as a head coach to figure this out. He really needs a playoff mandate next year because we've been rebuilding for the past 4 years or so and we've been going nowhere.
All the teams you've mentioned have an infrastructure in place for at least three years. And we finished two games better than the Panthers, a game better than the Jaguars, and a game behind the Steelers who we beat. Don't forget that we lost our top 2 quarterbacks. Not just our starter Miami was trying to tank? They beat New England IN New England with the bye on the line. They also beat the aforementioned Colts and Eagles who won the NFC East. They were far from the tank narrative everyone labels them as. I just don't know why everyone thinks NFL teams can just show up and go 7-9. And why everyone takes for granted beating any team on a Sunday and improving three games over last year with a worse roster given the injuries and lack of depth to support said injuries.
All those teams also had harder schedules than us. We literally had the easiest strength of schedule. And yeah we were pretty much handed wins. This buffalo game we were handed that. The Pittsburgh game... Pretty much handed that. Our defense just had to show up and us play conservative football. What has Gase been known for? Conservative football. We are more like a 5-11 team that got lucky (or screwed depending how you look at the draft). We had a lot of injuries yes. Most of those injuries were on defense, which played better than our offense. Our DC is way better than our offensive guru. His sides qb (Mosley) went down in week 1... he adjusted... his corners (Tru and the rest) were garbage then injured... he adjust... his backup qb (Williamson) went down... he adjusted... his olbs went dpwn for a time.... he adjusted... his star safety went down... he adjusted... one of his starters on dline were trade... he got better.... so as much as we gripe about injuries on offense... the defense had worse and did more... NO we aren't getting better. We got worse... Darnold played worse at every point thus year than he did those last 4 games last year... he didn't improve from where he was at the end of the year. Our offense doesn't get to claim hos bad it was because of injuries when the Defense stepped up... it's next man up. This is football.. every team had trouble. Pittsburg... the saints played their backup most the season and still did better. Stop making excuses.
Most of those injuries were on the defense? We had 9 different starting offensive line combinations. We added four offensive starters in training camp. We played Vycint Smith and Daniel Brown a significant amount this year. We lined up Josh Malone on snaps on Sunday. He has 7 career catches in three years. We finished a game behind Pittsburgh and beat them. They're your golden example.
Non of our receivers missed significant time to injury...those were played because we need to see what they had in a garbage game. We on the other hand were playing our 3rd string mlbs... so thats 4... both our starting olbs missed time. Mclendon and Q missed time. Jamal missed time. We went through more changes at cb than we did the o line. Yes the defense definitely had more injuries.
We played the same corners for the entire second half of the season. Demaryus Thomas, the starting X, played ten games and left a couple with injury. We placed our two starting guards onto IR this week. We've had a revolving door at right guard and played three different players at right tackle, and two centers. No one is attacking the godsend that everyone thinks is Gregg Williams. But the offense was equally if not more banged up and talent deficient as the offense was. The defense also had easier challenges vs. The Steelers, Bills, Patriots, etc. Part of the schedule being so 'easy' was the shitty offenses we played all year. Not the shitty defenses we played, because we really didn't play many.
